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I'm not gonna give you this guys name because the things he wrote are so filled with false accusations and hate, that it would just be too great of an embarrassment for him. In short, it is ridiculous!! Keep in mind this guy doesn't know me from Adam or God, I mean Adam-God, whatever...Ha Ha!! I don't want to screw up his life by exposing to the world who he really is. I'm not here to embarrass people when they do a fine job of it all by themselves. One thing that is obvious though, is that he must not have spent much time reading my blog because he doesn't address one thing in it regarding the Church,it's false teachings, past racism and fraud.
His E-mail is a complete personal attack on me, someone that he has never met and someone that he has never even talked to. Let's just say that from what I know and have learned about this individual, he certainly isn't one to be attacking someone personally. I could reveal his identity and share all of the information that I know about him, but it would be open season on him and I don't think it's necessary or fair to him. Anyway, I just wanted to give you a little background on him before you read his E-mail. It is rather entertaining, so enjoy!! LOL!!
Now, while most "TBM's" aren't so "crazy" and "out of control", like this "lunatic", I do believe that most strong Mormons believe that people leave the Church because of sin. Why do they think this? Because they are programmed to think this. I heard it several times growing up in the Church and I too used to believe that. Of course, it could never be that they have discovered that the Church has lied about their history and they have found it to be a complete fraud. It has to be sin, just has to be!! It is obvious that this guy has bought into that theory hook line and sinker!! For me, it all goes back to the First Vision, when Jesus told Joseph Smith that all Churches were an abomination. The Church may say they respect other religions and faiths but the reality is that they were founded on the fact that every other religion is false and abominable. So, I guess this guy is just preaching the hate that has been taught to him starting with the First Vision. It makes him feel superior to everyone else and all other religions. I do wish him the best and I sincerely hope that one day he can find his way to freedom!!
Anyway, Here it is:
Came across your blog and I just about threw up. What is your problem? Why are you so mad at the church? Excommunicated for adultery maybe? Perhaps. Awwww, someone is mad because the Church doesn't approve of their lifestyle. So you're doing this to what, air your grievances? You really think that you'll do 1 thing to tear down God's Kingdom on earth? This is the work, man. No unhallowed hand, remember? I know what your deal is... you've never been a member, and you surely aren't now. You're 1 of 2 things... you're either some "christian" automaton, preaching against a Church you have no idea about because your preacher asked you to, or you're some preacher, peddling your pathetic anti-mormon literature. But you are starting a revolution, oh yeah... 99 blog views. Wow. Only 264,999,001 more people to get the message out to. And why don't you allow comments on your little blog? Can someone dish it out, but not take it? Uh-oh. You really are the lowest of the low. Since you're powerful enough to bring down the True Church of God, let's see you answer some questions... what mission did you serve in, who was your mission president, what years did you serve? Which Temple were you married in? Who performed your sealing? Are you divorced? Did you commit adultery? Does your "family" feel the same about the church as you do? Let's see some walk served with this talk, friend.
Now, since this guy does not deserve a personal response from me, after sharing his E-mail with my new Family on Mormon Recovery Board I had the following response. Hey, if you are out there dude, this is for you. I know that you'll come back because you really do want to read what I have to say. Most people said, hey, "you must be doing something right, keep up the great work, etc." I appreciate everyones comments and support!! I love what I'm doing here, writing this blog and it will just keep growing, so stay tuned. Thanks to all of you that read this and email me and write posts on Mormon recovery, I keep getting more great ideas. I love everyones insights, experiences and knowledge. Like one person commented, "this is like getting my first dollar and putting it up on the wall when someone opens a new business." I'm calmer now than the other day when I first got the E-mail but this was my response to Mr. Anti Samuel the Utahnite...LOL:
Well, let's see, so I must be gay or maybe an adulterer?!!LOL!! How dare he take pot shots at my lifestyle!! Ha Ha!! Sorry guys, I can't stop laughing!! He says, "You've never been a member, and you surely aren't now." Well, I'm thinking that if I've never been a member, then I can't be one now, right? He's a freaking genius!! Oh yeah, and I was excommunicated for Adultery like 8 times too, that's why I'm possessed by the Devil now and attacking the Mormons. That has to be it!! Typical "TBM" attitude that we've all discussed a million times. This guy is a perfect clinical study of "TBM's."
"You really are the lowest of the low." Why thank you!! So what is he? a ranting lunatic, brainwashed TBM!! LOL!!
"What mission did you serve in, who was your mission president, what years did you serve? Which Temple were you married in? Who performed your sealing? Are you divorced? Did you commit adultery? Does your "family" feel the same about the church as you do? Let's see some walk served with this talk, friend."
Well, let's see, why would I give any personal information to this idiot, especially after he accused me of being an excommunicated adulterer/non-member/Preachers helper/Preacher? LOL!! I'm not a "TBM" anymore, or I might!! The mind control just doesn't work on me anymore. I got out of the cult so that I wouldn't have to confess to Morons!!
Then he says, "You're 1 of 2 things... you're either some "christian" automaton, preaching against a Church you have no idea about because your preacher asked you to, or you're some preacher, peddling your pathetic anti-mormon literature."
Yep you got it dude, you smoked me out of my hole, I'm a 7th Day Adventist regular member who was asked by my Preacher to completely trash some Church called Mormons. LOL!! No, Actually, I'm the leader of the JW's here in California and I'm just peddling my anti-Mormon literature. LOL!! Sorry guys, I just think this is more and more funny the more I read it.
This guy is hilarious!! I'm thinking that it might be "logic chopper" coming after me or maybe logic chopper who turned into "George" and started answering his own posts before he was gonna get is "ass" booted out of here!! LOL!! Maybe it is that Peterson guy that everyone says has lost his mind. Maybe it's Van Hale but he seems to calm to freak out like this idiot.
Anyway, I just thought I'd share and I'd really love your feedback guys. Help me get through my first hate mail letter, I'm so devastated!! LOL!!
Honestly, I consider it a compliment to my blog, this site and all of you that we are getting under their skin like this. They are coming undone!! They are losing their cool!! By the way XXXX, check my counter again, it's not 99, it's 1752 in less than a month. I'm sure that he is lurking in here. Anyway, thanks guys for helping me to be who I am, thanks so much for reading my blog and for helping me find the truth so that I didn't end up like this lunatic!! Thanks guys!! Chau!!
Samuel the Utahnite
Oh yeah and my blog that pushed this guy to the edge of insanity:
http://mormontruth.blogspot.com/ ***Warning*** Read with caution if you are a brainwashed, lunatic "TBM" with a short fuse. I'm not responsible for what happens to you if you don't heed my warnings...LOL!!Well, that's it, my first hate mail and my response. I have some other responses from another site that were also rather humorous and I'll share them at a later time. I hope you guys enjoyed that. This guy is an example of how people can become so obsessed and self-righteous, that they actually feel good about accusing a stranger of Adultery. Keep in mind that this guy got off a mission within the last year. He doesn't seem like a very Christlike person to me. Apparently he learned nothing on his mission but how to unfairly judge people and how to be intolerant of anyone Else's beliefs, but specifically, anyone that may have left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. If he learned any good lessons, it appears that he has forgotten them!! Hopefully, I'll be able to keep you all entertained for a very long time with my experiences. Also, like I've said before, if anyone out there wants me to share your experiences, email them to me. Take care everyone and thanks for reading my blog!!
At the groundbreaking ceremony, Elder W. Craig Zwick of the Seventy and president of the Brazil Area remarked, "It was heartwarming to see about 50 buses that had been used to transport the people, and to see the people assembled on the hill; it was a multitude of faithful saints. The whole experience felt Pentecostal." Referring to a letter from an eight-year-old boy, who had worked hard to earn a $100 donation to help with the construction of the thirty new smaller temples announced in April conference, President James E. Faust observed that he and a man who sent in one million dollars that same day "[would both] be equally blessed for their faithfulness, regardless of the size of their donation" (Church News, 9 May 1998).
http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/cgi-bin/pages.cgi?campinas&operating
Well, with the Faust and gold fillings story in Brazil, Hinckley in Panama demanding tithing, Faust in Peru just a few weeks ago saying, “You have to earn another temple”, nothing should surprise us and we know just who these men are. I wonder how the little boy felt to hear that some man had sent a million dollars when he had scraped and sacrificed for a meager $100? They are greedy, disgusting thieves!! These men are cold, calculating and evil!! They literally rob from the poor, in the name of God, to give to the rich, themselves!!
Then you read or listen to the tithing talk by Elder Lynn G. Robbins Of the Seventy, from the April Conference where he says, "if a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing."
Then you look at Septembers Ensign and Friend magazines and guess what is covered? You got it, tithing!! The Church is obsessed with tithing and always will be. They just want more money, no matter how they get it or who they take it from. They'll buy gold fillings out of poor peoples mouths, show them around to congregations and take $100 from an 8 year old little boy, just to continue to build their palaces and further their kingdom of fraud, deception and greed!!
It is truly a very sad state of affairs!!
Samuel the Utahnite
Fist of all, everyone that is interested, can listen to the show and then make their own conclusions. To me it is obvious that Merrill J. Bateman is a liar. He knows what's really going on but would never admit it. He doesn't want to lose his big fat monthly pay check and his "Mormon celebrity status." I discovered this email tonight and I thought it was awesome, eloquent, to the point and very powerful. I hope you guys enjoy it. It was written by "Free at last" over on the Mormon Recovery Board. We thank you "Free at last" for writing such a great response to a man who knowingly lied on public radio. Thanks for all of your hard work and documentation on this E-mail.
To Whom It May Concern:
I listened to Doug Fabrizio’s interview today with Mormon Elder Merrill J. Bateman. What Bateman did not acknowledge on the radio is the significantly negative impact of the Internet on the church’s growth, member retention, and missionary efforts.
For generations, the information that people received about Mormonism came from church sources: General Authorities like Bateman, missionaries (who were trained to deliver a “package” of propaganda to potential converts), local church leaders and teachers (who relied on church publications like lessons manuals and policy booklets) and church materials such as the Ensign magazine and missionary pamphlets. Relatively few members and investigators knew that “anti-Mormon” literature existed, or had access to such materials. For generations, the LDS church controlled the information about Mormonism that most people received. History has shown that those who control information are able to manipulate the masses.
In the past ten years, the Internet has taken away much of the control of information that the LDS church had since the 19th century. Today, any person with access to the Internet can find out facts about Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon, early church history, and other aspects of Mormonism that the church has concealed from members and potential converts for generations. For example, by going online, people can learn that Smith not only had polygamous wives, but he married women who were already married, and married girls as young as 14 when he was in his 30’s. With a few clicks of a computer mouse and keystrokes, the church’s carefully crafted image of Joseph Smith as a righteous Prophet of God is blown away by non-faith-promoting facts. For the past 150+ years, the LDS church has worked very hard to conceal these facts from members and potential converts in order to bolster their faith in the church and its senior patriarchal leadership, past and present. Thanks to the Internet, each day Latter-Day Saints and non-members who are investigating Mormonism are discovering truths that seriously conflict with what the church wants them to believe.
Another thing that Bateman did not point out is that the church’s young missionaries are being confronted by investigators who are going on the Internet and learning dark and disturbing facts about Mormonism, and then de-converting the naïve missionaries, who are shocked to learn that what they were taught during their formative years by the church was far from the truth. Smith’s practice of polygamy and polyandry, Brigham Young’s teachings about Blood Atonement and God having sex with Mary to create Jesus, and the church’s racist doctrine regarding blacks and the priesthood are just some of the many faith-shaking facts that people discover online.
The Internet has also made scientific information much more readily available to the general public, which has had, and continues to have, a significantly negative effect on the Mormon Church in terms of member retention and converts. For example, online, people can learn about DNA research (including research done by BYU) that does not support the church’s teaching that the Book of Mormon is a history of two great peoples who lived in the ancient Americas. The DNA data clearly shows that the ancestors of Native Americans did not come from Israel, as the Book of Mormon states and the church has taught since Joseph Smith’s day, but from northeast Asia. The research is so irrefutable that the church is now saying, “Nothing in the Book of Mormon precludes migration into the Americas by peoples of Asiatic origin.” (ref. http://www.lds.org/newsroom/mistakes/0,15331,3885-1-18078,00.html). This official statement contradicts the teachings of Mormon presidents, apostles, and other senior church leaders since 1830 (the year Joseph Smith founded the Mormon Church). Mormons are going on the Internet and learning facts that do not support the “keystone” of the LDS religion (the Book of Mormon), and many other things that they were systematically indoctrinated to believe were “true” and came from God. In many cases, the result is psychological and emotional shock, and a great deal of anger that the church and its senior leadership have abused their trust (and took their money). You can read some of their stories here: http://www.exmormon.org/stories.htm.
Another aspect of the Internet that has significantly impacted the LDS church is the recovery from Mormonism movement and the various related websites. The Recovery from Mormonism website (http://www.exmormon.org/) alone gets 140,000+ hits and hundreds of posts each day. Through online bulletin boards and blogs, Latter-Day Saints are able, often for the first time in their lives, to share their doubts about the LDS church and Mormonism. In the church and their Mormon families they were never allowed to speak their personal truth, never permitted to saying anything that might “rock the boat” of another Mormon’s faith or call into question a church doctrine/teaching. But online, they are able to be real, to be themselves, and to openly discuss their thoughts and feelings about the church and the changing world of Mormonism. There are websites where people can find out how to terminate their membership in the LDS church (http://www.mormonnomore.com/), for gay and lesbian Latter-Day Saints (http://www.affirmation.org/), and to report incidents of Mormon ecclesiastical/priesthood abuse (http://www.mormonalliance.org/). There is an online support group for women who have left the Mormon Church (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XLDSWomen/) and a popular Mormon humor website (http://www.salamandersociety.com/) with a cheekiness that isn’t permitted on conservative LDS websites.
Yet another aspect of the Internet that is negatively impacting the LDS church is the easy availability and rapid dissemination of non-faith-promoting news. For example, in June of this year, the Salt Lake City Tribune reported that the church was spending $1 billion dollars to buy, renovate, and expand two shopping malls in SLC. Within minutes of this article appearing on the Tribune’s website, a link to it was put up on the Recovery from Mormonism website. Readers saved and e-mailed the article to Mormons and ex-Mormons. The Tribune subsequently nixed the online article. Some Latter-Day Saints who became aware of the news are wondering why they should pay 10+% of their income to a multi-billion dollar church that is asking them to contribute even more in fast offering for the poor and needy while it enlarges its real estate portfolio with a very expensive acquisition. Mormons remember that it was not too long ago that the church cried poor and laid-off hundreds of meetinghouse custodians and other church employees. Saved online news reports help us remember the facts that the church’s senior leadership would prefer members forget (e.g., the forger Mark Hoffman duping Gordon Hinckley and other senior church leaders in the 1980’s).
In closing, the Internet is significantly affecting the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in ways that its patriarchal leadership does not like. People are learning the facts/truth and leaving the church, realizing that their trust has been abused and they have been manipulated. The church’s senior leadership will not publicly acknowledge this reality, but it is happening, and will continue to negatively impact the church’s membership numbers, member activity rates, missionary efforts, and retention of converts.
[My name]
Exit Counselor (Mormonism)
Basically, he's completely worthless as a supposed Prophet, Seer, Revelator, Oracle or mouthpiece of God!! He's a joke!! Why is it that he can't predict Tsunamis, Hurricanes, earthquakes, acts of terrorism or any other tragedy? Yeah, yeah, God can't interfere right? That is, unless you are a Mormon!! Well, that is unless you are the Mormon Tabernacle choir that was supposed to be in London the day of the bombings. But, thanks to Hinckley's "supposed revelation", they were spared.
To damn bad that the Ole Hinckster didn't give Tony Blair a phone call if it was indeed a revelation from God. Also, if it was a revelation from God, not just a lucky coincidence and Hinckley knew what was going to happen and didn't make "the call", then the blood of all those poor innocent people is all over his hands. The truth was that he just canceled their tour due to the turmoil around the world in general and didn't have a freaking clue that something was going to happen "that day" in London. Why would he? He doesn't know anything!! He isn't even familiar with Church doctrines that have been taught for 175 years let alone when terrorists are going to attack London. To be frank, he doesn't know his head from his ass!!
You know you are in trouble as the "Mormon Prophet of God" when the current news on the weather channel is all new to you and nothing that you have even remotely thought of or had revealed to you. Imagine if "God's living oracle", made regular predictions and warnings that turned out to be true and saved tens of thousands of lives around the world. People would listen and respect him!! People would convert in droves!! He would indeed be revered as a modern day Moses as Kim Clark(New President of BYU Idaho) referred to him. For now, I'll refer to him as a modern day uninspired loser without any perception or inspiration about anything.
Unfortunately for Hinckley, the only people that even give a tinkers damn about what he says are lifelong "Morgbots", die-hard "TBM's" who look at him like he's Abraham or Moses, with stars in their eyes. They agree to give their own life for him and his Church rather than reveal the "secrets" of the "Mormon Masonic temple rituals." They agree to dedicate all of their time, talents and money to his bogus fraud, even it means making their own Family suffer. They consecrate their lives to the Church and always put the Church before their own families.
Since Hinckley has been the Prophet, the only supposed "revelations" that he has received are: 1-Women can only wear one set of earrings, not two or more. 2-We must cancel all missionary Farewells and Homecomings 3-We must go on a massive temple building spree(Including mini temples) to try to get more tithe payers 4-One day it popped in his head that they needed a Conference Center for $300-$500 million. He thinks it was inspired of god, not sure though 5-That they had to buy a mall and spend a billion dollars or more to remodel everything both of their malls 6-His crowning jewel of revelations, "the malls will be closed on Sundays to keep the Sabbath day holy but Monday through Saturday, they will allow alcohol to be served in their malls. However, they will sell the exact land where the restaurant is, so that it will be in their mall, but not their land, therefore not they aren't selling alcohol. Unbelievable!! Next time you go see your Bishop, use that analogy to justify anything you've done. Well Bishop, we had pre-marital sex but even though it was my body, it was not my car....unbelievable!!
I could go on about the Mormon Church buying land in Nebraska, building a luxury resort in Hawaii, etc, etc. My point being that he hasn't done one useful thing to help "the world." Meanwhile, we have Hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, terrorism, etc and he has no clue about any of it. He is worthless to the world, does nothing for the world or the Saints to protect them and this is a "Prophet of God?" No way!!
Now, I've been pondering what he might do for the people in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. What could he come up with if he went there to give a speech. Hey, I've got it, let's look back at the April Conference and Elder Lynn G. Robbins Of the Seventy. He gave a talk entitled "Tithing—a Commandment Even for the Destitute." All we have to do here is review, from his talk, what Hinckley said to the victims of Hurricane Mitch, which in October of 1998, devastated many parts of Central America. This will help us to know what he might say to these hundreds of thousands of people in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, that were left homeless and without anything. No food, no clothes, nothing.
So here it is, what Hinckley will say when or if he goes to visit them(See if the conditions sound familiar):
President Gordon B. Hinckley was very concerned for the victims of this disaster, many of whom lost everything—food, clothing, and household goods. He visited the Saints in the cities of San Pedro Sula and Tegucigalpa, Honduras; and Managua, Nicaragua. And like the words of the loving prophet Elijah to a starving widow, this modern prophet's message in each city was similar—to sacrifice and be obedient to the law of tithing.
But how can you ask someone so destitute to sacrifice? President Hinckley knew that the food and clothing shipments they received would help them survive the crisis, but his concern and love for them went far beyond that. As important as humanitarian aid is, he knew that the most important assistance comes from God, not from man. The prophet wanted to help them unlock the windows of heaven as promised by the Lord in the book of Malachi (see Malachi 3:10; Mosiah 2:24).
President Hinckley taught them that if they would pay their tithing, they would always have food on their tables, they would always have clothing on their backs, and they would always have a roof over their heads.
What is Hinckley, just a modern day con artist? He should go work at the circus and carnivals!! How could a man be so cold, so heartless and despicable. These people lost EVERYTHING and all he can think of is PAY YOUR TITHING!! What a scumbag!! He should be ashamed of himself but it's hard to be ashamed of yourself when you know no shame!! If you are a "TBM", on the fence on whether you should leave the Church, have a few doubts about things, I hope that these amazing comments by President Hinckley will be just what you needed to exit out of the Mormon Cult that preys and robs from the poor, homeless and those that in reality have nothing. I wonder how his ridiculous promise applied to those that were already paying their tithing and now had no "roof over their head", no "food on their table" and only the clothes on their backs, just like the people now that just got hit by this hurricane, they had nothing. But hey you homeless, starving, on the verge of death people, PAY ME YOUR DAMN TITHING SO THAT GOD WILL BLESS YOU!! HE WOULD LOVE TO OPEN THOSE WINDOWS BUT HE'S WAITING FOR YOUR TITHING FIRST!! JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOST EVERYTHING, HAVE NOTHING, THAT IS NO EXCUSE. PAY ME NOW!!
Samuel the Utahnite
At the groundbreaking ceremony, Elder W. Craig Zwick of the Seventy and president of the Brazil Area remarked, "It was heartwarming to see about 50 buses that had been used to transport the people, and to see the people assembled on the hill; it was a multitude of faithful saints. The whole experience felt Pentecostal." Referring to a letter from an eight-year-old boy, who had worked hard to earn a $100 donation to help with the construction of the thirty new smaller temples announced in April conference, President James E. Faust observed that he and a man who sent in one million dollars that same day "[would both] be equally blessed for their faithfulness, regardless of the size of their donation" (Church News, 9 May 1998).
Campinas, Brazil Temple Groundbreaking
Well, with the Faust and gold fillings story in Brazil, Hinckley in Panama demanding tithing, Faust in Peru just a few weeks ago saying, “You have to earn another temple”, nothing should surprise us and we know just who these men are. I wonder how the little boy felt to hear that some man had sent a million dollars when he had scraped and sacrificed for a meager $100? They are greedy, disgusting thieves!! These men are cold, calculating and evil!! They literally rob from the poor, in the name of God, to give to the rich, themselves!!
Then you read or listen to the tithing talk by Elder Lynn G. Robbins Of the Seventy, from the April Conference where he says, "if a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing."
Then you look at Septembers Ensign and Friend magazines and guess what is covered? You got it, tithing!! The Church is obsessed with tithing and always will be. They just want more money, no matter how they get it or who they take it from. They'll buy gold fillings out of poor peoples mouths, show them around to congregations and take $100 from an 8 year old little boy, just to continue to build their palaces and further their kingdom of fraud, deception and greed!!
It is truly a very sad state of affairs!!
Samuel the Utahnite
Hey, I just wanted to thank everyone that has been reading my blog. I try to put as much new info on here as I can as often as I can. I appreciate those that have emailed me. I promise that I will answer every email. If anyone out there has history or personal information on the Mormon Church, opinions or personal experiences that you want me to share on my blog, just email them to me. I would love to share more things that are not common knowledge and I spend many hours every week looking for these types of things. I know that we live in a big world and that people have a vast variety of experiences, especially within the Church. Actually, as it is often said in the Church, "It's a small world, especially in the Church." That is a true statement and I've had many personal experiences myself. The Mormon Church is really nothing but a great Multi-Level Marketing Company where everyone seems to know someone in the upline or downline....LOL.
I know that some of us have had good experiences as well as bad but my blog is not to share too much of the good but I will give props to the Church if I feel they got something right. I'm not ever gonna say that I didn't have good or spiritual experiences in the Church, but it had more to do with God in my opinion than the Mormon Church. At the time, I always believed that those types of experiences only confirmed what I already knew but that was when I didn't know or have the knowledge that the Mormon Church was a complete fraud. Anyway, that is another topic that I will get into another time. Like I stated, the purpose of this blog, as I'm sure you have noticed by now, is to uncover and reveal the fraud that is the Mormon Church; it is not to tell everyone how wonderful it can be in certain instances. The Mormon Church pretends and lies enough in their massive "PR" campaigns, how wonderful they are and Hinckley tells the world in every Conference. So, I'm just trying to counter balance all the "PR BS" that the Mormon Church is trying to con the world into believing.
After all, I spent my whole life trying to only share the good, overlooking the bad, etc. Now is the time for me to expose the other side. In my opinion, whatever good the Mormon Church manages to do is far overshadowed by the bad. The Mormon Church literally divides and destroys Families, especially if someone falls off of the "one and only true path to God." Their racist, anti-sex and anti-gay teachings are a complete and total abomination to me. These teachings have literally caused deaths and suicides. That to me is unforgivable and no level of goodness can overcome that degree of evil. What makes it worse is that many of these teachings continue on to this day. As I have noted in my blog in several places, the Mormon Church has never ever said three simple words, "I am sorry", in regard to the racist teachings of Brigham Young and many others. The only thing that this lack of contrition tells me is that they are not truly sorry and must still believe these teachings. Yeah, they have 3 temples in Africa, blacks got the Priesthood in 1978, so what? They can't say that they are sorry!! It is simply window dressing for how they really believe. Why the hell did it take so long anyway? So God was a racist until 1978? That whole situation is completely ridiculous and just plain wrong!!
They have to publicly do these things but all you have to do is look at how many black GA's are in the last Conference Ensign and you'll have your answer as to how they really feel and believe. How about ZERO!! Like I've mentioned in my blog, there has only been one, Helvécio Martins and he was in the 2nd quorum of the Seventy and released when his 5 years were up and that was back in 1995. Hinckley tells Larry King that it's possible for a black man to one day be the Prophet but we all know he really can't even fathom the idea. First, there would have to be someone black, that was an Apostle that was younger than Bednar who is like 55 I believe. So, how are we gonna get a black Apostle when there isn't a single black man in either of the First two Quorums of the Seventy? Anyway, it will never happen!!
That fact that they called someone from Germany to be an Apostle still blows my mind. Of course, he has white and delightsome skin, so it's okay, right? Oh wait, I forgot, they removed the white part from the Book of Mormon in 1981. But yet, Joseph Smith stated "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on the earth ... " (History of the Church, Vol. 4, page 461). There have been 3,913 changes in the most correct of any book on the earth. Wow, I guess that's not too bad for a perfect book!! LOL!! Maybe it was all of that "sticking his head in a hat" and "reading the seer stone" that caused some errors, right? Maybe with the darkness of having his head crammed into a hat, it was too dark at times? I remember as a "TBM", I used to hear about all of the Book of Mormon changes and just spewed the "TBM" rehearsed answers, such as, "that was just punctuation", "the rabid anti-Mormons are just lying about it to try to destroy God's work, etc."
The worst thing that I used to say all the time was a quote from one of the Apostles, I don't remember who and frankly, I don't feel like researching it at the moment, but it was the old saying that, "the Church must be true because people who leave the Church, can never leave it alone." I used to go on all day about that one. What a fool I was as I am now that person that can't leave the Church alone!! The difference is, that now I fully understand why it is that people can't leave the Church alone. Let's be real, after people, for their whole life, have been lied to, deceived and robbed of their time, money and talents and before 1990, in the temple, they agreed to slit their own throats from ear to ear, while pantomiming it and disemboweling themselves if they ever revealed the secrets of the Temple; then they would chant Pay Lay Ale 3 times as they raised and lowered their arms and hands, well, I don't blame people or myself if we are very pissed off!!
We were members of a mind controlling cult and agreed in front of God and the witnesses there, specifically, our own Family Members and Friends, that we would rather die and slit our throats before revealing the secrets of the cult. Now, I consider that pretty serious and if someone isn't pissed off about it, then I don't understand. Everyone has to deal with it in their own way but if something like the things I've described don't rile someone up, I'm not sure what would. I just can't believe that I went along with it, although I do admit it always made me very uncomfortable but I accepted it as so many of us did. For those that didn't experience that, this info is for you and it is 100% true, I promise you.
So, from what I understand, the Mormon Cult leaders sent out some type of survey in 1990 to "special Saints", to ask what they thought of the Temple penalties and we all know what the overall responses must have been like. So, then the Mormon Cult made the necessary changes to God's "perfect, unchangeable, revealed directly from God to Joseph Smith, bogus Masonic temple ceremony. I was actually on my mission when the changes were made. Now this wasn't the only change, there were many. I will be doing a post this week about all of the many changes that have taken place regarding the temple ceremony from the very beginning. By the way, if anyone out there has a copy of that survey that was sent out, I would greatly appreciate somebody emailing me a copy to post. I haven't been able to find a copy of it anywhere but too many people know about it for it not to have been true.
Anyway, this just all proves, even more, what an unbelievable scam the Mormon Church is!! It's amazing that so many people have gone along with it for so long, including me, many Family members and many Friends. It goes to show that if you are raised a certain way, told to accept certain things, that most of us will just go along with it. It's a natural process. Thankfully, hopefully, someday, most of us will wake up and say, "wait a minute, that doesn't seem right." Thus begins the journey to the center of the truth and ultimately freedom that most of us that were strong, active Mormons, have never really had. I hope that this blog will be a way to help many of you to find that path to the truth that you are seeking. I also try to refer you to as many other sources as I can. I have heard from quite a few of you, telling me that I have helped you with this blog and I appreciate you letting me know. That is my main goal, to simply help others. Writing this blog has also been very helpful and healing for me, to get out all of the feelings that I've had pent up for so long. Through the years, there were so many things that bothered me but the fear that the Mormon Church instilled in me, kept me in check and things really built up over time. So if I can help others, while helping myself, by simply sharing "the truth" and how I feel, than my goal is being accomplished. I have so many things that I haven't even gotten to yet. What I have written so far is just the tip of the iceberg, trust me!! There is so much past stuff that needs to be discussed, along with the current stuff that it's a real challenge to write all that I'm feeling and observing, but I'll do my best. One thing that I'm gonna do every Sunday night, like I'm doing right now, is just write a personal note about how I'm feeling and what I'm thinking. I'll dedicate the rest of the week, as normal, to expose the fraud of the Mormon Church. I've recently come across some great sources that should help all of us and make for some great blogs.Well, in closing, I pray that somehow God will somehow spare the poor people in New Orleans but unfortunately, it appears that God just basically lets things happen as they do. If he was ever going to intervene, that Tsunami last year may have been a good time. I have no clue how God decides when or how to intervene, so I won't even try to guess on this one. So all we can do is say our prayers and hope for the best. Once again, I want to sincerely thank everyone for reading my blog and I hope that those of you that like what you read, will tell your friends, family and others about it. Spread the good word, link to me and let's spread the truth everywhere we can. There is strength in numbers and I believe that with everyone working together we can accomplish great things. I have many more things that I'm going to be doing and I'll keep you all posted as I go along. Also, over on "The Mormon Curtain", I now have my own subject line under "Mormon Truth" and once everything that he has published of mine, is moved under my category, it will be a great place to go for a quick reference. That site is fantistic!! I appreciate everyones support and I'll say goodnight for now. Take care!! Chau!!Samuel the Utahnite
I saw the headline this morning and couldn't believe what I was seeing. Damn hypocrites!! Then again, I'm glad they are gonna do it to show the world who they really are. This helps our cause greatly and reveals them for who they truly are. I knew that they were gonna do it. I predicted this about 2 months ago and they didn't let me down. They can't resist the money. Amazing that us normal folks have more revelation and are better at predicting the future than God's supposed Prophet, Seer and Revelator!!
They are now officially in the world and of the world. Welcome!! Here are some quotes from the Tribune article that explain how they are going to get around the fact that there will be alcohol being served in their mall. Then I will follow that up with some great quotes by current Apostles and the beloved Hinckster regarding the use of alcohol. This is mind blowing!! I would say that they are getting bolder and bolder in their actions. I guess if Hinckley can tell a woman to wear only one earring and she obeys, then serving alcohol in the name of God is an easy one!!
I started my journey 3-4 months ago but if I hadn't, I would have started it now after reading this article. First they buy the malls, now they serve alcohol. I even have a "TBM" relative that today said, "this is it for me." They are writing letters today to the First Presidency and their Bishop. They are furious!! Anyway, here are some of those quotes:
Salt Lake Tribune article.
The LDS Church has opened the door to alcohol sales at its downtown mall project. But forget Sunday shopping.
In an unexpected move for a church that eschews alcohol, LDS Church spokesman Dale Bills said Friday restaurants that will open as part of the redevelopment of Crossroads Plaza and ZCMI Center malls will be allowed to seek liquor licenses.
For residents who may have feared the church was on its way to "Vaticanize" downtown by buying up property like the malls, the alcohol decision is a show of tolerance, say observers.
It's also an economic decision: Vibrant downtowns need nightlife.(You see, it's all about the money, "an economic decision.")
The church says it wants to create a vibrant, 24-7 environment in its new project,
Because the church preaches against liquor consumption, it is distancing itself from the future restaurant operations. The church will sell land for the restaurants to an outside developer.
And there won't be any private clubs or bars opening on the blocks.
"A limited number of high-quality restaurant tenants who will operate on land not owned by the church may apply for licenses to serve alcoholic beverages in accordance with existing state regulations," Bills told The Salt Lake Tribune.
Friday was the first time the church has acknowledged the Sunday and alcohol arrangements. The announcement came first during an interview Mayor Rocky Anderson conducted with Bills and church architect Bill Williams on KCPW's "Midday Metro" radio program.
When Bills said it was the church's "goal" to allow restaurants to serve wine, Anderson responded: "That's going to be good news for a lot of people in this community."
So basically, these hypocritical scumbags are going to sell the land that each restaurant is on to the individual restaurant so that they can "officially say", it's not our land. They must think that people are real dumb asses and won't be able to figure this one out. Then again, most "TBM's" will probably say, "SEE, they are doing the right thing, selling the land so that it won't be Church property."
I guess it would be okay then if I sold my basement to a bar or a brothel. Yes, it would be in my house, but it wouldn't be my property. I'm sure my Bishop would be fine with that. Let's get real guys!! These GA's are more cunning than the Devil himself but wait, maybe it's the Devils Church after all and he guides them? Oh well, I'm just amazed at the latest current events regarding these hypocrites and I'm just glad that I got the hell out of there and don't have to defend their actions any longer. However, I can't wait to talk to my "TBM" friend who will defend the Church at any cost, that should be a fun and delightsome conversation. Isn't it wonderful?!!
Anyway, here are quotes by current GA's to back up my point of how the Church feels/felt about alcohol. **warning, you may laugh uncontrollably**:
Dallin H. Oaks, “Brother’s Keeper,” Ensign, Nov. 1986, 20
Wouldn't’t it be wonderful if this same attitude of looking after the interests of others governed Latter-day Saints who are making a profit from the sale or promotion of alcoholic beverages? Consider the terrible effects of alcohol. Alcohol-related accidents are the leading cause of death of those under twenty-five. The physical, social, and financial effects of alcohol ruin marriages and family life. By dulling inhibitions, alcohol leads to untold numbers of crimes and moral transgressions. Alcohol is the number one addictive drug in our day.
The consumption of alcohol is increasing among youth. Targeting young audiences, advertisers portray beer and wine as joyful, socially desirable, and harmless. Producers are promoting new types of alcoholic beverages as competitors in the huge soft-drink market. Grocery and convenience stores and gas stations stock alcoholic beverages side by side with soda pop. Can Christians who are involved in this commerce be indifferent to the physical and moral effects of the alcohol from which they are making their profits? (Hey, that's a great question Mr. Oaks, now answer it for us.)
Russell M. Nelson, “Joy Cometh in the Morning,” Ensign, Nov. 1986, 67
In 1833 the Prophet Joseph Smith received the Word of Wisdom by revelation. It includes these simple directives: We are not to drink alcohol, tea, or coffee, and we are not to use tobacco. Prophets in our generation and in this conference have told us also to avoid harmful drugs. Now medical science increasingly confirms the physical benefits of compliance with these teachings.
The damaging effects of alcohol are so widely known, additional comment is hardly needed. Harm inflicted by alcohol has been demonstrated, for example, by a study of the relationship between alcohol consumption among expectant mothers and the birth weight of their newborn infants. Findings published from the U. S. National Institutes of Health disclosed that consumption of one to two alcoholic drinks a day was associated with a substantially increased risk of producing a growth-retarded infant (see James L. Mills, et. al., “Maternal Alcohol consumption and Birth Weight,” Journal of the American Medical Association, 12 Oct. 1984, pp. 1875–79).
Ezra Taft Benson, “Satan’s Thrust—Youth,” Ensign, Dec. 1971, 53
The Church must not compromise standards before popular demands. Surely tobacco, coffee, and alcohol users have been alienated by uncompromising standards as much as today’s rocking miniskirts.
Using life as a laboratory, we can observe and study the lives of others as we might through a microscope. Observe that the man of God is a happy man. The hedonist, who proclaims “Do your thing,” who lives for sinful, so-called pleasure, is never happy. Behind his mask of mock gaiety lurks the inevitable tragedy of eternal death. Haunted by its black shadow, he trades the useful, happy life for the bleak forgetfulness of drugs, alcohol, sex, and rock.
Russell M. Nelson, “Addiction or Freedom,” Ensign, Nov. 1988,
Alcohol
There is mounting concern worldwide over the consumption of alcohol. The U.S. government estimates that 10.6 million adults are alcoholics and that one family in four is troubled by alcohol. It is a factor in half of all the nation’s traffic deaths.
Last year, a tragic milestone was reached. More Americans had been killed from alcohol-related motor vehicle accidents (1,350,000) than had been killed in all the wars America has ever fought (1,156,000).
Dallin H. Oaks, “Be Not Deceived,” Ensign, Nov. 2004, 43
And we must never do anything to drive away that Spirit. Specifically, we should avoid pornography, alcohol, tobacco and drugs, and always, always avoid violations of the law of chastity.
Four B's for Boys
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Four B’s for Boys,” Ensign, Nov. 1981, 40
...be so shortsighted as to indulge in the use of alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. It simply is not smart to do...
...and short-circuit your future? Beer and other forms of alcohol will do you no good. Their use will be expensive...
Look to the Future
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Look to the Future,” Ensign, Nov. 1997, 67
...But there is so much more to do among them. Alcohol and drugs literally destroy many of them. We must do...
...the family in America and across the world. Drugs and alcohol are taking a terrible toll, which is not likely to...
That We May Touch Heaven
Thomas S. Monson, “That We May Touch Heaven,” Ensign, Nov. 1990, 45
...mind and spirit. Hard drugs, wrongful use of prescription drugs, alcohol, coffee, tea, and tobacco products destroy your physical, mental, and...
...spiritual well-being. Any form of alcohol, including beer, is harmful to your spirit and your body...
Be Ye Clean"
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Be Ye Clean,” Ensign, May 1996, 46
...things and has warned us against them. Stay away from alcohol, my brethren. Never get involved in a so-called beer...
...divine. It is totally wrong for you to partake of alcohol or drugs that are forbidden by the law. Be clean...
The Joy of Hope Fulfilled
M. Russell Ballard, “The Joy of Hope Fulfilled,” Ensign, Nov. 1992, 31(He was talking about a man he knew, not himself....LOL) Wishful Thinking eh?
I was taken with the practice of free drugs, free love, free fun, and the rest of the world be damned. Beginning with my first drink of alcohol, I began to slowly deteriorate. After alcohol, other drugs were that much easier to use. In order to take drugs, you must become a good liar. You learn to do whatever it takes to conceal your behavior from others.
Gordon B. Hinckley, “Why We Do Some of the Things We Do,” Ensign, Nov. 1999, 52
Avoid alcohol as you would a loathsome disease. Beer will do to you what hard liquor will do. Each contains alcohol in varying amounts.
Anyway, their are literally hundreds of references on the Churches website talking about how evil alcohol is but yet they will allow it in their mall but it won't be their property. Okay, so you aren't responsible. I wish I could have used that defense when I was a "TBM" to explain away any questionable behavior. To me, the Mormon Church has just lost complete credibility for their teachings on the Word of Wisdom and specifically alcohol. It may be a while before we hear anyone from the Church preach about the dangers of alcohol. Then again, they are so arrogant, Hinckley will probably say in the next conference, "We did the right thing selling that property..." After all, it was Brigham Young who opened the first bar in Salt Lake and Joseph had a bar in his front room until Emma went crazy and made him chose between her and the bar. Porter Rockwell was the bartender which I love.
Smoking and drinking Prophets link
So you see, there is a pretty strong history of the Church pretending to be against things that they really indulge in, especially alcohol and tobacco and this goes all the way back to good ol' Joseph Smith. I would love everyone's comments on this. I'm not saying that I'm against a restaurant serving alcohol, I talking specifically about the Mormon Church serving alcohol at their mall when you can't even get a Coke or Pepsi at BYU. Anyway, this turned out great for those of us that are no longer in the Church.
What a cult!! Do as we say, not as we do or you will be greatly punished but of course we only punish with love and concern!! Is it just me, or is this cult getting more evil by the day?!!
Samuel the Utahnite
