Thursday, February 2, 2006

It Has Now Been 6 Months Since "Mormon Truth" Has Existed And I would Call It A Great Success, In Spreading The Truth, Thanks To All Of You!! Thanks!!

Well guys and gals, friends, fellow Ex-Mormons, those currently researching, TBMS and TBM trolls, I just felt the need to write this post to thank all of you for the success of what I'm trying to do here on Mormon Truth. I know that we've been able to help countless people. We are now over 25,000 page views since August and we continue to grow and increase each month. I thought December was awesome, but January blew it away. The only month that we've had any decrease was in November, due to the Holidays and Thanksgiving I'm sure. Then in December, we bounced back big time and even better in January. Let's keep it going and increasing our visitors each and every month so that this year is awesome. The more people that know the truth, the more people we can free from the grips of the Mormon cult.

I've had several of you Email me to say that you have shared this website with many friends and family members and maybe one day, they will thank you. I've also received a few emails from those of you that once hated this site; you thought it was too hardcore, went elsewhere to search for your answers, found the truth and now you are back and love my site, while now sharing my passion and you tell me to keep the passion going. I say to these people, thank you and welcome back and please spread the word.

I think it is so funny that people question my motives, why I'm doing this and how many are convinced that I left for some grievous sin or to hang out in crack/whore houses, become a criminal, etc. Like one person said to me yesterday, that is experiencing similar treatment from his TBM friends and family:

"All of those that write you hate mail are afraid of the truth. They have been told all their lives not to look into the secrets of the church. They have to conclude that we are sinners, offended, or weak. I have heard these explanations of my leaving the church for 10 years now. It is an insult. If I truly believed that I was going to be damned for leaving the church, would I have left? It was the most important thing in my life. Would I leave all that because I wanted to have sex or wanted to have a drink. It is a slap in the face that they would think that I have so little intellect or control that I would walk away from salvation for some personal gratification."

All I can say is, that is the perfect statement, expressing perfectly, how so many of us feel, when we are unrighteously judged by our supposed "Christian/Mormon" friends and family. Don't they get it? Can't they open up their brainwashed minds for just one second and realize that the person that they have loved, trusted and respected, for their whole life, hasn't gone off the deep end?


Can't they realize that we just discovered things that intellectually and emotionally, we can't cope with anymore; that we discovered the truth? Can't they see how hypocritical it is for them to cast such awful judgments upon us without listening to a thing we are trying to say, while calling themselves Christians and believing that they will be Gods and Goddesses someday?

This my friends, is a very powerful example and tells us just how powerful and evil, the Mormon cult machine really is. The very fact that our leaving, causes our loved ones, friends and family, to now assume that we are now suddenly whoremongers, drug addicts, criminals, sex fiend, etc, shows how they are programmed from the day they are born to judge and mistreat others.

The Mormon Church is a very evil cult that preaches complete intolerance to anybody outside of their faith, let alone, somebody that was in the faith and then has chosen to leave, for their own reasons. They cause family and friends to turn against each other over history and doctrines that the Mormon Church won't even discuss. They involve Bishops, who are supposed to be "inspired of God", telling wives and husbands to leave each other, when one has left the Church. These supposed men of God, have no more inspiration or authority, than anybody else.

They say that they are a Church of "eternal families" and "families can be together forever" but they leave out the part that that can only happen if they all believe in the Mormon Church and are active and faithful temple recommend holders. In other words, unless we are part of "Gods Celestial Country Club", knowing all of the handshakes and tokens, plus willing to pay several thousand dollars a year for membership, we aren't welcome.

Even worse, if we try to get others to leave, or join a different country club, we will one day be destroyed and live in outerdarkness. Who wants to associate with such evil people, right? I guess it's not hard to see what an awful picture the Mormon Church paints, of those of us that see right through their charade.

As Boyd K. Packer says, "Remember: when you see the bitter apostate, you do not see only an absence of light, you see also the presence of darkness. Do not spread disease germs." As the anti-Mormon that I am, I always think of their evil, darkness and "disease germs" when I see the title of an April 2005 conference talk, Beware of the Evil behind the Smiling Eyes by Elder Neil L. Andersen. What a clever play on words, to make everyone think he was talking about us, and not themselves.

Now, just as a quick review, to help further drive home my point; here is question #6 from the temple recommend interview, which supports every word of this post:

6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?

You have to answer NO to that question, to get one of these:

So, what this really means, is that if you are a TBM, with a temple recommend, you now have to choose between your eternal life and associating with your son, daughter, mother,father,brother, sister, etc. You can no longer associate with your loved ones or best friend of over 30 years, which has personally happened to me.

What kind of disgusting organization, let alone a Church, would put anyone in this type of impossible situation?

Well, it's clearly not a Church, it's a horrible, evil cult!! That is what cults do!! They cut you off from your friends and family and discourage any contact with them, for fear of you being brought to your senses or reality.

I can't think of any other Church, that I'm aware of, that creates this type of nonacceptance, intolerance, hatred or disdain between family members. I'm not speaking of the other cults(Churches) out there, but the mainstream, truly Christian Churches. Wasn't it Jesus that taught acceptance and love, of everybody?

If the Mormons believe so much in Jesus Christ, and even name their Church after him, then why don't they preach and practice this very simple, basic teaching and follow his example? This is just another example of why Mormons aren't Christians and believe me, there was a time when I never could of dreamed of saying such blasphemy, but it's true. They are the furthest thing from being Christian that I've ever personally known.

Now, just to clarify, so I don't get 100 hatemails, I'm not referring to the average, faithful, innocent Mormon, who believes that they are Christian, just for their belief in Jesus. They are indeed Christian, but they just don't know that their Church isn't.

They are all innocent victims of the Mormon cult, brainwashed from birth. They get insulted when people say they aren't Christian, because they believe they are. However, just because you put the name of Jesus Christ in the title of your Church, doesn't make it Christian, does it? Especially when your behavior toward members and others, especially non-cult members, is as un-Christ-like as it can get.

So what is it that the Mormon Hierarchy is so afraid of? Why are they so terrified of one of their members "associating with or sympathizing with" someone that opposes the views and teachings of the Mormon cult? Well, when you know that you are a fraud, with a closet full of skeletons, lies and deceptions, going back to 1820, you'd better be afraid, very afraid.

These good, faithful members, might just discover the "real truth" and that truth may set them free, thus having a negative impact on their tithing and fast offerings. It's all about the bottom line and their money and nothing else, that is what they are concerned about. How sad and pathetic!!

If the Mormon Church is so true, then what are they so afraid of, right? If the Church is so true, in fact, the "only true and living Church on the whole face of the earth" (D&C 1:30) then everything that people study and learn about Mormon history and doctrine, past and present, should only strengthen their testimonies, but that obviously isn't the case, is it?

Let's reflect on what former Mormon Apostle, Orson Pratt had to say regarding the Church and more specifically, the Book of Mormon. Then I'll share Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland's remarks, and finish up with Hinckley, the grand-poo-papa. These comments should leave you no doubt as to the Mormon's claim of absolute truth and why they are so terrified of those of us that know the real truth:

This book must be either true or false. If true, it is one of the most important messages ever sent from God . . . If false, it is one of the most cunning, wicked, bold, deep-laid impositions ever palmed upon the world; calculated to deceive and ruin millions . . . "The nature of the message in the Book of Mormon is such that, if true, no one can possibly be saved and reject it, if false, no one can possibly be saved and receive it. . . .

"If, after a rigid examination, it be found an imposition, it should he extensively published to the world as such. The evidence and arguments upon which the imposture was detected should be clearly and logically stated, that those who have been sincerely, yet unfortunately, deceived may perceive the nature of the deception, and be reclaimed, and that those who continue to publish the delusion may be exposed and silenced, not by physical force, neither by persecutions, bare assertions, nor ridicule, but by strong and powerful arguments--by evidences adduced from scripture and reason . . .

"But on the other hand, if investigations should prove the Book of Mormon true . . . the American and English nations should utterly reject both the Popish [i.e., Roman Catholic] and Protestant ministry, together with all the churches which have been built up by them or that have sprung from them, as being entirely destitute of authority." (Orson Pratt, Works: Divine Authority of The Book of Mormon [Liverpool, 1851, pp. 1-2, as quoted in Wayne L. Cowdery, Howard A. Davis and Arthur Vanick, Who Really Wrote the Book of Mormon?: The Spalding Enigma [St. Louis, Missouri: Concordia Publishing House, 2005], p. 18)

Good to know that the Mormons are so accepting and loving of other religions, right? Yeah, yeah, bring your good and we'll see if we can simply add to it. (Hinckley) What good? They are all abominable, right!! Orson Pratt, was just simply reflecting the First Vision message, that all other Churches are wrong and abominations, and that their professors(preachers) are corrupt.

Now, let's also reflect on the words of Jeffrey R. Holland:

True or False

by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve

Excerpted from a Church Educational System Religious Educators’ Symposium address given at Brigham Young University on August 9, 1994.

Everything in the Church—everything—rises or falls on the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.

Jeffrey R. Holland, “True or False,” New Era, June 1995, 64

A good deal has been said about the authorship—and, therefore, the divine origins—of the Book of Mormon. But then there has always been a lot said about it ever since it first rolled off the old E. B. Grandin press in downtown Palmyra, New York, on the 26th of March, 1830.

Let me quote a very powerful comment from President Ezra Taft Benson, who said, “The Book of Mormon is the keystone of [our] testimony. Just as the arch crumbles if the keystone is removed, so does all the Church stand or fall with the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. The enemies of the Church understand this clearly. This is why they go to such great lengths to try to disprove the Book of Mormon, for if it can be discredited, the Prophet Joseph Smith goes with it. So does our claim to priesthood keys, and revelation, and the restored Church. But in like manner, if the Book of Mormon be true—and millions have now testified that they have the witness of the Spirit that it is indeed true—then one must accept the claims of the Restoration and all that accompanies it.

“Yes, the Book of Mormon is the keystone of our religion—the keystone of our testimony, the keystone of our doctrine, and the keystone in the witness of our Lord and Savior” (A Witness and a Warning, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1988, p. 19).

To hear someone so remarkable say something so tremendously bold, so overwhelming in its implications, that everything in the Church—everything—rises or falls on the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon and, by implication, the Prophet Joseph Smith’s account of how it came forth, can be a little breathtaking. It sounds like a “sudden death” proposition to me. Either the Book of Mormon is what the Prophet Joseph said it is or this Church and its founder are false, fraudulent, a deception from the first instance onward.

Not everything in life is so black and white, but it seems the authenticity of the Book of Mormon and its keystone role in our belief is exactly that. Either Joseph Smith was the prophet he said he was, who, after seeing the Father and the Son, later beheld the angel Moroni, repeatedly heard counsel from his lips, eventually receiving at his hands a set of ancient gold plates which he then translated according to the gift and power of God—or else he did not. And if he did not, in the spirit of President Benson’s comment, he is not entitled to retain even the reputation of New England folk hero or well-meaning young man or writer of remarkable fiction. No, and he is not entitled to be considered a great teacher or a quintessential American prophet or the creator of great wisdom literature. If he lied about the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, he is certainly none of those.

I feel about this as C. S. Lewis once said about the divinity of Christ: “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: [that is,] ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic—on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg—or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to” (Mere Christianity, New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1952, pp. 40–41).

I am suggesting that we make exactly that same kind of do-or-die, bold assertion about the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ and the divine origins of the Book of Mormon. We have to. Reason and rightness require it. Accept Joseph Smith as a prophet and the book as the miraculously revealed and revered word of the Lord it is or else consign both man and book to Hades for the devastating deception of it all, but let’s not have any bizarre middle ground about the wonderful contours of a young boy’s imagination or his remarkable facility for turning a literary phrase. That is an unacceptable position to take—morally, literarily, historically, or theologically.

As the word of God has always been—and I testify again that is purely and simply and precisely what the Book of Mormon is—this record is “quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of both joints and marrow” (D&C 6:2). The Book of Mormon is that quick and it is that powerful for us. And it certainly is that sharp. Nothing in our history and nothing in our message cuts to the chase faster than our uncompromising declaration that the Book of Mormon is the word of God. On this issue we draw a line in the sand.

May I make it very clear where I stand regarding Joseph Smith, a stance taken because of the Book of Mormon. I testify out of the certainty of my soul that Joseph Smith entertained an angel and received at his hand an ancient set of gold plates. I testify of that as surely as if I had, with the three witnesses, seen the angel Moroni or, with the three and the eight witnesses, seen and handled the plates.

It was the Book of Mormon that changed my life, told me the gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored, and immersed me in the Church, heart and soul. I hold it in a category sacred to me among all the world’s literature. It stands preeminent in my intellectual and spiritual life, the classic of all classics, a reaffirmation of the Holy Bible, a voice from the dust, a witness for Christ, the word of the Lord unto salvation.

Now, lets bring it home with the current, amazing, "only one earring in each ear", drum roll please, Prophet of the whole earth, for Jesus Christ, the man who communes with Jehovah, but can't predict Tsnami's or Hurricanes, Gordon B. Hinckley:

Here are the quotes. This first one is from the Gordon B. Hinckley speech, “The Marvelous Foundation of Our Faith,” Ensign, Nov. 2002, 78:

We declare without equivocation that God the Father and His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, appeared in person to the boy Joseph Smith.

When I was interviewed by Mike Wallace on the 60 Minutes program, he asked me if I actually believed that. I replied, “Yes, sir. That’s the miracle of it.”

That is the way I feel about it. Our whole strength rests on the validity of that vision. It either occurred or it did not occur. If it did not, then this work is a fraud. If it did, then it is the most important and wonderful work under the heavens.


Now from Gordon B. Hinckley's speech,
“Loyalty,” Ensign, May 2003, 58


Now may I say a word concerning loyalty to the Church.

We see much indifference.
There are those who say, "The Church won't dictate to me how to think about this, that, or the other, or how to live my life."

No, I reply, the Church will not dictate to any man how he should think or what he should do. The Church will point out the way and invite every member to live the gospel and enjoy the blessings that come of such living. The Church will not dictate to any man, but it will counsel, it will persuade, it will urge, and it will expect loyalty from those who profess membership therein.

When I was a university student, I said to my father on one occasion that I felt the General Authorities had overstepped their prerogatives when they advocated a certain thing. He was a very wise and good man. He said, "The President of the Church has instructed us, and I sustain him as prophet, seer, and Revelator and intend to follow his counsel."


(Keep in mind now that he is speaking of people being obedient to him, Gordon B. Hinckley, who is now the Mormon Prophet, Seer and Revelator. So he is telling people to be obey him and anything that he might say. That my friends is a cult leader, plain and simple!!)

Then he said:

Each of us has to face the matter—either the Church is true, or it is a fraud. There is no middle ground. It is the Church and kingdom of God, or it is nothing.

In Gordon B. Hinkley's,
“My Testimony,” Ensign, Nov. 1993, 51, he said the following:

I thank my Father in Heaven for the testimony I have of the reality of the First Vision. I have stood among the trees where Joseph knelt as a boy, and heard the whisperings of the Spirit that it happened as he said it happened. I have read the words of critics, who from 1820 until now have tried to destroy the validity of that account. They have made much of the fact that there were several versions and that the account as we now have it was not written until 1838. So what?

So, as the Prophet Lehi taught, in the book of Mormon, we are free to choose "liberty and eternal life" or "captivity and death." (2 Nephi 2:27) Liberty and eternal life = being a faithful Mormon and obeying all the rules. Captivity and death = not being a Mormon or choosing not to be a Mormon, or heaven forbid, the most evil creature of all, is he or she that leaves the Mormon Church after having a testimony(based on fraud) and the full light. In other words, we have now officially denied the Holy Ghost and have chosen eternal captivity and death!!

So, you see, those that no longer want to associate with us evil, vile anti-Mormons, are simply on a quest for the "liberty and eternal life" in Mormon fantasy land, and are terrified of the "captivity and death" that may result from their association with us future sons/daughters of perdition.

Okay, now I understand, thanks a lot Lehi for clearing that up!! Ya da fairly tale man!! Good thing they protect those innocent Saints though, from the truth and forbid them from associating with us; I wouldn't want to cause anyone to lose their eternal life as it would eat at my conscience everyday as I rot in Eternal hell as a son of perdition. LOL!!

Anyway, thanks so much guys for all that you have done to make my/our efforts a growing success. We are all apart of it and our success is measured by how many people we are able to help escape the clutches of the Mormon cult or deal with their emotions after leaving. A lot of people out there are suffering and hurting, big time, after discovering the truth and they need our help, compassion, love and support. They most certainly won't get if from the places you would think they would be able to , under normal circumstances. As Holland says, the Mormon Church "draws a line in the sand" and you are either with them or against them.

A couple of months ago, I was motivated and inspired by the example of Hyrum and Mike, of the Church is not true, and John Dehlin, to also start the "Mormon Truth Podcast." So far, the results have been great and surprising, as I continue to get a ton of Emails, thanking me for my efforts and for my help. I couldn't do it without all of you and thank you for all of your support and positive comments.

I also want to give a special thanks and a big shout out to The Mormon Curtain owned and run by Infymus. (AKA Michael Hoenie) He really helped me to get the word out there by posting my writings and opinions, web address and then eventually, giving me my own subject heading. That meant a lot!!

Also, The Mormon Curtain, was instrumental in helping me to leave the Mormon Church. When I was first in the discovery process, I would spend countless hours, reading all of the different articles, information and personal experiences that are so nicely organized and easy to maneuver through. Thanks Michael for creating such a great place for people to become informed and search for their freedom. That place is a a fort Knox and wealth of knowledge. I know that he puts in a lot of time to do what he does and his efforts are greatly appreciated.

Now, last of all, I also want to thank RFM(recovery from Mormonism) for allowing me to post there as long as I did, while sharing my Mormon Truth web address. Many emailed me, amazed that they allowed me to do it at all since RFM claims to be against any so called anti-Mormon activists.(Even though they have several famous ones, right in their midst) They normally frown on people giving links to their sites, unless they are the celebrities of RFM. So, I guess I got lucky somehow.

After being censored on numerous occasions, for not being politically correct, or too much of an activist or giving shout outs to other so called activists, like Mike and Hyrum and their podcast, while allowing their favorite celebrities to run roughshod and blatantly break every rule; it was time for me to exit stage left and focus on doing my own thing without the all to familiar censorship of my former Mormon life. Leaving RFM and not posting there anymore, was the best thing I ever did. It freed up my time to really help people and those that really wanted my help, instead of going in circles with the same old, same old.

Also, Susan's big Email battle with Infymus and the Mormon Curtain, just proved to me that RFM was more out for their own glory, than truly helping other people learn the truth of Mormonism. Instead of trying to work with him, they basically condemned his site and his using of posts from RFM, which disappear now within 10 days; it used to be 15 but due to ever decreasing space, they had to drop it to 10.

That just shows that they don't give a damn over there and Infymus is the one that really cares, documenting great stuff everyday, that won't exist in 10 days. They should have been thanking him, not criticizing him and threatening him with make believe lawyers that were mad one second and laughing the next.(according to Susan's Emails)

Yes, RFM, does document stuff and has quite a few things in their archives that I wrote, but what they archive is minuscule, compared to what Infymus archives. Infymus has unlimited space and they are just jealous of his efforts and success, plain and simple.

Instead of combining with others for the greater good of helping others being the main goal, they condemn people like myself, Infymus, Mike, Hryum, etc. I didn't intend to get into this, but it needs to be said again, as I reflect on my path to the truth and what has transpired the last 6 months. The whole RFM deal was a big part of why this blog and my podcast exist today. Even out of the Church, in a place that is supposedly for people recovering from Mormonism, I couldn't recover properly. It was like joining some other cult where they set the rules and played God.

I guess that they just can't shake that need to censor and control people and their words and they seem to be terrified of the Mormon Church suing them. I guess that paranoia also comes from being a Mormon and it is hard to shake. If it hadn't been for the ridiculous hypocrisy that existed there, I would have remained, from time to time, at least continuing to help people with links to what they are looking for, etc.

To be honest, that was one of my favorite things; to help others find what they were looking for and providing people the links that they needed. In my opinion, when they lost me, they lost more than just a poster. I really and sincerely, wanted to help people and cared, that is what they lost. They'd rather have people like Steve Benson blasting the hell out of innocent posters and insulting everyone he could as often as he could. Just not my cup of tea...LOL!!

I guess I quickly outgrew my surroundings and felt like I was locked in a cage again, after just leaving one. Thus the birth of my blog and now my podcast and tremendous freedom to say and share whatever I please in a non-censored environment. So, I thank RFM as it was a necessary stage for me to go through and it gave me a platform and place to share my strong views of how I felt and to express myself. Anyway, it is in the past now and a place that I won't return to, due to the reasons already stated. I honestly don't know how people can keep posting there for years?

Ultimately, I didn't really feel welcome there anymore or that I could be a part of whatever they were trying to accomplish. I'm glad that they exist and that they help so many people, but it isn't for me and isn't my style. I need my absolute freedom, after being repressed for so long, plain and simple.

In the meantime, I've found better, deeper places where I can share my views, without being censored, from time to time and get great, insightful comments in return. Dr. Shades Mormon Discussion board is the best uncensored board there is. You can talk about anything you want in anyway you want without being censored. It was the first place I went to after leaving RFM, at the personal invite of Dr. Shades and it was such a breath of fresh air after RFM.

I also like the Post Mormon Recovery Board as a great place, where very educated and informed people hang out and discuss things in a more serious way when needed. There is still plenty of humor to be found there. Sadly, with my own blog and now podcast, along my attempt to also live my life, I have very little time to participate much in these places even though I really do enjoy the exchange of expressions of thought with others. I plan on being able to do that soon on my podcast with many of you. But, at least I have great places to go when I do have the time or something big to report or a new discovery.

So, in closing(sounds like I'm giving a talk in sacrament meeting...Ha ha!!) I want to thank everyone that has helped me to be where I'm at, by sharing with me your stories, knowledge, experiences and pain. This blog is a cumulative and collaborative effort of many people. Thank you for letting me know that I've helped you and thank you for helping me s much in the process. You guys are awesome!!

In addition to those that I've already mentioned, I want to give a special thank you to those that have helped me and supported me so much; Bonnie, Eric, Wendy, John, Captain Jack, Polygamy Porter, Gunner, Andy, Nancy, Steve, Matt, Lindsey, Suzie Q. and everybody else that I'm probably leaving out. Honestly, I've been so overwhelmed with Email, that I still have some people from a long time ago, that I need to respond to. If you sent me a good Email, that wasn't ridiculous and accusing me of being a heroine addict/adulterer, and you you haven't heard from me yet, you will, I promise.

Also, a very special thank you, to all of those supposed Christian/Mormons/TBMS, that have sent me vile hatemail, accusing me of all sorts of vileness, while embarrassingly exposing themselves and their Church for what they really are. You guys just motivate me to keep it going, so keep it coming!! If it's really bad, I'll even give you a nice page on my blog, so that everyone can see your "Christianity" and "Mormonism", in action. Keep setting that great example for that cult that you love and believe in so much. Great job TBMS!!

Well guys, that's it for now. I have so many things that I want to write, now I just need the time to write them. So, stay tuned to the blog and the podcast and I don't think that you will be disappointed. If any of you have information about the Church that you feel you want me to share on my blog, let me know. If you have a personal experience that you want to share, even anonymously, send it to me and I'll publish it.

As always, the main goal of what I'm trying to do here, is help people to know the "real truth" and escape from the Mormon cult. I want to expose the Mormon Church to the point that people can't deny what I'm saying. I try to be as thorough as I can, giving the official links and resources whenever possible, in order to help your personal studies and discovery process.

Don't take my word for it, rather go out, research it yourself and make your own personal discovery. I have nothing to lie about when the truth is so easily found and displayed. Maybe my anger, occasional swear words or manner of delivery is too much for some of you, maybe you don't like what I'm saying, but you should probably move on if that is the case; but hopefully one day, you will make your way back with more understanding and understand my anger and frustration a little better as some have already done.

Some people reading this are in transition right now, just beginning there journey, or in the middle of their journey. Some of you are just innocent, true-believing, faithful members, unknowing members, that have no idea you've been lied to and duped for your entire life. I feel especially bad for you because I was once there myself about 10 months ago.

Some of you know the truth but refuse to accept it and fight people like me, calling us liars, sons of perdition, adulterers, etc, because you can't accept that you've been duped. I challenge you to try to redirect your anger toward those that deserve it, your cult leaders.

Some of you most likely know the truth (Daniel Peterson-Farms, John Lynch-Fair) but make a very concerted effort in publicly defending the Church, mocking anyone that criticizes it, while working for Farms(BYU) or Fair, even though you know that there really aren't any legitimate, common sense answers to the hard questions. You even attack the people like me, also accusing them of being horrible sinners.

You guys are nothing more than cronies and toys of the Prophet and First Presidency and Apostles, that's it. I'm not sure how you can look in the mirror and be proud of what you are doing. If you truly do believe, after seeing all of the evidence and facts, then I just plane feel sorry for you.

I guess the only slack that I can give you guys that do this, is that you don't want to lose your jobs and careers, which you would if you came clean. Other than that, you guys are despicable, as you only help to perpetuate the fraud by continuing to lie to the innocent, faithful members that are only seeking the truth and you continue to lead them down the road of make believe.

I think that most of you that do this, have the credentials to get another job, that would probably pay even more, much more, than BYU or the Church. I believe that it's more than just the money though, it's also your love of the prestige, fame and ass kissing that you receive as a bonus for your efforts. You should all be ashamed of yourself!!

Yeah, especially you Daniel Peterson, you are a flat out embarrassment to any truth that exists in this world. He likes to initiate Email conversations with people, back and forth, were he mocks, makes fun of, personally accuses and attacks and then ultimately baits them into saying bad things, then he publishes the entire conversation on Shields to show everyone what scumbags us anti-Mormons are.

I've also published conversations that I've had with TBMS, but the difference is, I didn't initiate the dialog or the initial attack as Daniel Peterson does, rather I'm responding. The people that I respond to and post about, sought me out and attacked me. Daniel Peterson purposely seeks out people that he can try to embarrass by personally attacking them and then printing their pissed off responses. He then wonders why they get pissed off. Gee I wonder?!!

The guy is a complete unethical ASS, plain and simple. So, bring it on Danny boy, but don't be too disappointed when I don't respond and fall for your pathetic deceit. Of course, he would claim to be a good, ethical Christian/Mormon with his temple recommend in his hand, right? At least I've seen what he does, so I won't go down the same path of others and have him openly ridicule me.

At least he still has to commit to not violating his temple covenants in fear of the "judgments of God" and being threatened with "God will not be mocked." I wonder if he was disappointed that they removed the "naked touching" in January of 2005? I wonder how he justified that one? Who cares, the guys a complete joke and I couldn't care less about what degrees he decorates his walls with.

If he truly believes what he is saying, that the Church is true, that there is an explanation for everything, then he is one of the dumbest, highly educated men that I've ever heard of. You can be book smart, but unless you have common sense, it ain't gonna do you much good in this life, but it will make you into a perfect Mormon Apologist. Like I always say a lot, you can be book smart and life stupid, completely devoid of any common sense. That is the perfect definition of a Mormon Apologist.

Guys, again, thank you for everything, and let's look forward to another awesome 6 months and a great year. Great things are gonna happen and we are gonna be able to help a lot of people. I believe that every year, more and more people are gonna be leaving the Church. We'll never know how many, exactly, since they would never report that number, but as long as I'm playing a part in it, of helping to educate and free people from the Mormon fraud, then I fell fulfilled and my goals are being reached.

Again, if anybody out there has a great experience, story, knowledge or something that will help others to know the truth that we Ex-Mormons now know, please Email me, so that I can share it on my blog or in my podcast.

I've recently had conversations with 2 TBM friends, one who doesn't know my situation or feelings toward the Church and one who does. All I can say is, I'm so grateful that I no longer have to twist my brain into a pretzel to understand basic concepts of life and who I am. I can't believe that I was once them, a very short time ago. I can't believe that I had to throw out all logic, common sense and reasoning, in order to believe the basic precepts of the Church.

The sad thing is, that both of these guys are great guys, with great reasoning abilities, great common sense and intelligence, unless you are talking about Mormonism. I see my former self in them every time we talk and I honestly can't come to terms with the fact that they are what I used to be.

The crazy thing is that I used to question and wonder about things that didn't make any sense, but then I would either dismiss them outright or just find a way to rationalize them in my mind, while great deluding myself, to make them fall in line with Mormonism. After all, I thought, Mormonism is the only true Church on the face of the planet, so everything that I've ever been taught, has to make sense, I just don't understand it. How twisted is that?!!

I remember on my mission being taught that teachings of Mormonism are very advanced and very far above those of science and that one day science would catch up and they would be as one. Yea, looks like we might need to reverse that statement, but the difference is, Mormonism will never catch up to science. It gets left further behind with every discovery that is made. Isn't it amazing that Mormonism can take a very well respected, intelligent, logical person and make them look like a complete brain-washed dumb ass? That's what Mormonism does, it makes smart people look stupid!!

How refreshing it is to truly have freedom of thought and the ability and freedom to think on my own and in my own way about whatever I want, however I want. I no longer have to believe that the only way is the Mormon way, while dismissing every evidentiary fact along the way and trying to make everything fit into the box of Mormonism.

One day I'm going to do a post of all of the bizarre things that I once had to believe and/or dismiss, due to my Mormon beliefs. Now, everything is back on the table and it's exciting, fun and exhilarating. I no longer have to "throw out" ever scientific fact that is ever discovered, in order to make Mormonism jive.

It's really amazing what fun it can be to be able to think on my own, without having some pathetic old farts in Salt Lake, dead or alive, past or present telling me what I believe, how I believe and who I believe in.

I'm free from the shackles of Mormonism and thanks to all of you and your support, man, do I feel good!! Keep up the great work everyone and lets keep helping as many people as we can that desperately need our help!!

Samuel the Utahnite

Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Coretta Scott King, 78, Dies-What A Great Woman, Married To A Great Man, Who Did So Much To Fight Against The Racism That The Mormon Church Supported!



Tuesday, January 31, 2006
Associated Press

ATLANTA — Coretta Scott King, who turned a life shattered by her husband's assassination into one devoted to enshrining his legacy of human rights and equality, has died at the age of 78.

Flags at the King Center were lowered to half-staff Tuesday morning.

"We appreciate the prayers and condolences from people across the country," the King family said in a statement. The family said she died during the night. The widow of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. suffered a serious stroke and heart attack last August.

"It's a bleak morning for me and for many people and yet it's a great morning because we have a chance to look at her and see what she did and who she was," poet Maya Angelou said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"It's bleak because I can't — many of us can't hear her sweet voice — but it's great because she did live, and she was ours. I mean African-Americans and white Americans and Asians, Spanish-speaking — she belonged to us and that's a great thing."

Gov. Sonny Perdue ordered flags at all state buildings to be flown at half-staff and offered to allow King to lie in state at the Capitol. There was no immediate response to the offer, the governor's office said


King died at Santa Monica Health Institute, a holistic health center in Rosarito Beach, Mexico, south of San Diego, said her sister, Edythe Scott Bagley of Cheyney, Pa.

Bishop T.D. Jakes of the Potter's House in Dallas, one of the nation's largest Christian megachurches, said he helped arrange her trip to Mexico but didn't know much about the treatment she received there.

She had gone to California to rest and be with family, according to Former Atlanta Mayor Andrew Young, who broke the news of her death on NBC's "Today" show.

At a news conference, Young said Coretta King's fortitude rivaled that of her husband.

"She was strong if not stronger than he was," Young said. "She lived a graceful and beautiful life, and in spite of all of the difficulties, she managed a graceful and beautiful passing."

She was a supportive lieutenant to her husband during the most tumultuous days of the American civil rights movement, and after his assassination in Memphis, Tenn., on April 4, 1968, she kept his dream alive while also raising their four children.

"I'm more determined than ever that my husband's dream will become a reality," King said soon after his slaying.

She goaded and pulled for more than a decade to have her husband's birthday observed as a national holiday, first celebrated in 1986.

King became a symbol, in her own right, of her husband's struggle for peace and brotherhood, presiding with a quiet, steady, stoic presence over seminars and conferences on global issues.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who was with her husband when he was assassinated, said Tuesday that she understood that every time he left home, there was the chance he might not come back. "Like all great champions, she learned to function with pain and keep serving," he said. "So her legacy is secure as a freedom fighter, but her work remains unfinished."

In Washington, President Bush hailed her as "a remarkable and courageous woman, and a great civil rights leader."

King wrote a book, "My Life With Martin Luther King Jr.," and, in 1969 founded the multimillion-dollar Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Social Change. She saw to it that the center became deeply involved with the issues she said breed violence — hunger, unemployment, voting rights and racism.

"The center enables us to go out and struggle against the evils in our society," she often said.

She became increasingly outspoken against businesses such as film and television companies, video arcades, gun manufacturers and toy makers she accused of promoting violence. She called for regulation of their advertising.

After her stroke, King missed the annual King holiday celebration in Atlanta two weeks ago, but she did appear with her children at an awards dinner a couple of days earlier, smiling from her wheelchair but not speaking. The crowd gave her a standing ovation.

At the same time, the King Center's board of directors was considering selling the site to the National Park Service to let the family focus less on grounds maintenance and more on King's message. Two of the four children were strongly against such a move.

Also in the news recently was a new book, "At Canaan's Edge" by Taylor Branch, that put allegations of her husband's infidelity back in the spotlight. It said her husband confessed a long-standing affair to her not long before he was assassinated.

Coretta Scott was studying voice at the New England Conservatory of Music and planning on a singing career when a friend introduced her to Martin Luther King, a young Baptist minister studying at Boston University.

"She said she wanted me to meet a very promising young minister from Atlanta," King once said, adding with a laugh: "I wasn't interested in meeting a young minister at that time."

She recalled that on their first date he told her: "You know, you have everything I ever wanted in a woman. We ought to get married someday." Eighteen months later — June 18, 1953 — they did, at her parents' home in Marion, Ala.

The couple moved to Montgomery, Ala., where he became pastor of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church and organized the famed Montgomery bus boycott in 1955. With that campaign, King began enacting his philosophy of direct social action.

Over the years, King was with her husband in his finest hours. She was at his side as he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964. She marched beside him from Selma, Ala., into Montgomery in 1965 for the triumphal climax to his drive for a voting rights law.

Only days after his death, she flew to Memphis with three of her children to lead thousands marching in honor of her slain husband and to plead for his cause.

"I think you rise to the occasion in a crisis," she once said. "I think the Lord gives you strength when you need it. God was using us — and now he's using me, too."

The King family, especially King and her father-in-law, Martin Luther King Sr., were highly visible in 1976 when former Georgia Gov. Jimmy Carter ran for president. When an integration dispute at Carter's Plains church created a furor, King campaigned at Carter's side the next day.

She later was named by Carter to serve as part of the U.S. delegation to the United Nations, where Young was the ambassador.

In 1997, she spoke out in favor of a push to grant a trial for James Earl Ray, who pleaded guilty to killing her husband and then recanted.

"Even if no new light is shed on the facts concerning my husband's assassination, at least we and the nation can have the satisfaction of knowing that justice has run its course in this tragedy," she told a judge.

The trial never took place; Ray died in 1998.

King was born April 27, 1927, in Perry County, Ala. Her father ran a country store. To help her family during the Depression, young Coretta picked cotton; later, she worked as a waitress to earn her way through Antioch College in Yellow Springs, Ohio.

In 1994, King stepped down as head of the King Center, passing the job to son Dexter, who in turn passed the job on to her other son, Martin III, in 2004. Dexter continued to serve as the center's chief operating officer. Martin III also has served on the Fulton County (Ga.) commission and as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, co-founded by his father in 1957. Daughter Yolanda became an actress and the youngest child, Bernice, became a Baptist minister.

On the 25th anniversary of her husband's death, April 5, 1993, King said the war in Vietnam which her husband opposed "has been replaced by an undeclared war on our central cities, a war being fought by gangs with guns for drugs."

"The value of life in our cities has become as cheap as the price of a gun," she said.

King received numerous honors for herself and traveled around the world in the process.

In London, she stood in 1969 in the same carved pulpit in St. Paul's Cathedral where her husband preached five years earlier.

"Many despair at all the evil and unrest and disorder in the world today," she preached, "but I see a new social order and I see the dawn of a new day."

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Martin Luther King Jr, had a dream that the Mormon Church and their version of God, apparently did not share or believe in, as they continued banning black men and women from entering their temple, considered the Lords holy house, until 1978.

Even though it was men that were banned from having the Priesthood (since women can't have it), women were also banned from entering the temple without any explanation that I've been able to find. If it was all because of the Priesthood, and not having it, that doesn't explain the banning of women does it?

Blacks were unable to be sealed as an Eternal Family, which is the benchmark that the Mormon Church claims to be one of the central focuses of their beliefs and teachings. Why would God be racist? Why would he curse blacks due to Cain's transgression? After all, the Mormon's teach that we won't be punished for Adam's' transgression, but I guess that didn't include blacks being punished for Cain's. Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

The Mormon Church has only offered this equality for 27 years? Can you believe that? 27 years wasn't that long ago. Were they that far behind the world? Absolutely and what an embarrassment. How could an omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent God be so far behind the times and not know what the right thing to do was? Well, if he was really God, he would be ahead of the curve, leading the way, not bringing up the rear and fighting the right thing to do.

Ask the Mormon Hierarchy (Hinckley) and they'll dismiss it as "little flecks of history" that are "now behind us." They blame it on God without taking one shred of responsibility for their racist views and big mistakes. They can't even apologize and say 3 simple words, "WE ARE SORRY." What does this say about the Mormon religion?

So far, as far as I can tell, there have been only two black General Authorities in 175 years. The first one, believed to be ordained and called by Joseph Smith, was Elijah Abel. After serving many missions, he got sick on his last mission from exposure and gave his life for the Mormon Church and died shorty after returning back home to Salt lake City, Utah in December 1884.

What I just recently learned, is that his Son and 2 Grandsons were also believed to be allowed to have the Priesthood. One other note, is that Brigham Young, the biggest racist/bigot that the Mormon Church has ever known, forbid Elijah Abel to receive his temple endowment due to his black skin. There also appears to be a few other exceptions to blacks receiving the Priesthood, but I have no proof of these claims. As far as I know, the temple ban always stood, until 1978.

In 1978, the Mormon Church finally gave blacks the Priesthood after basically pleading with God, I know, unbelievable that they would have to plead with a racist God to allow blacks to have his precious Priesthood. The reality was that they were baptizing people in Brazil and realizing that most of them had black blood in their heritage. (chapter 2) These people were donating money and helping to build a temple that they wouldn't be able to enter. The Mormon Church was facing a PR nightmare and that's where this revelation actually came from.

Anyway, 12 years later, they called Helvécio Martins to be a Seventy and to date, he is the only modern day black man, to my knowledge, to be called as a General Authority. He served his 5 years and was released. His Son was the first modern day black Mormon missionary and he was called to go on his mission, despite being like a month or less away from getting married.

The Church used him as the "token" black missionary and asked him to put his marriage on hold for two years, which unfortunately, he did. What a shame!! Can you imagine how hard that must have been on both him and his bride? As Hinckley says, "nothing is too good for the Lord", right?

While blacks can now go the temple, and have their Eternal Family, no ground has been made in calling them to high positions of leadership, especially to be a General Authority. All one has to do is look at the May 2005 or November 2005 Ensign, at the picture of General Authorities and you won't see one black man in the mix.

That just proves everything I'm saying. When Hinckley tells Larry King that he could possibly see a black man as Prophet one day, or that it's "in the realm of possibility", he is being disingenuous at the least and flat out lying at the worst.

Since Bednar is in his mid 50's and the youngest Apostle, we are probably at least 40-50 years away from anyone under Bednar being the prophet, let alone a black man, since their isn't even a black Seventy, let alone a black Apostle. The Mormon Church talks the talk, but they rarely, if ever, actually walk the walk. It is disgraceful.

There will never be a black Mormon Prophet and I highly doubt that we'll ever see a black Apostle. Maybe a Seventy, but that's even doubtful at this point. Amazing that not one worthy black man, exists on the earth, to be called as a Mormon General Authority, isn't it? Wake up people!! The racism that the Kings fought so hard against, still lives strong in the Mormon Church.

It's too bad that the Mormon Church of the past or the present, couldn't and can't see the same dream of equality that Martin Luther King and his wife, Coretta Scott King fought for their entire lives. Martin Luther King gave his life for his dream in the end.

So, while the King's and many others were fighting for equality, unity, togetherness and love, the Mormon Church was fighting against equality for both blacks and women, homosexuals and preaching doctrines of division, racism, bigotry and separation. What a contrast eh?

There can be no doubt that these were not the actions of any God or "men inspired of God." While the world fought for unity, change and equality, the Mormon Church stood their ground, as they fought and clung to their racist and bigoted views and still do, to this day, in my opinion, especially regarding anyone that is homosexual. That seems to be the Mormon Church's new, public battle. Coretta King had even mentioned that if her Husband were still alive today, he would have also fought for Gay rights, again, in complete contradiction to God's supposed "only true Church."

Is there really any doubt that Martin and Coretta King have done far more good, taught more love, acceptance, helped millions more people and many more generations and have a greater legacy and influence, just those two people alone, than the Mormon Church, collectively, has accomplished in the last 175 years. There is no doubt about it!! In fact, the Mormon Church has taught the opposite.

Now that's pretty embarrassing for a Church that claims to be the "one and only true Church of Jesus Christ on the planet earth", isn't it? I'm so proud to be a non-Mormon and to be able to disavow these racist, hate-filled teachings, that have caused so many people, so much pain. I can now apologize to the world for the awful racist and bigoted teachings of Mormonism, both past and present. Someone has to do it, since they never will.

May God bless Martin and Coretta King for all that they accomplished and for all of the people that they have helped, as they are reunited once again to share that love that they have both surely missed all these years after his tragic death that came way too soon. If anyone was a martyr for their cause, it was Martin Luther King Jr, not Joseph Smith. They don't even belong in the same sentence together.

May Martin and Coretta King rest in peace and rejoice in their reunion this night!!

Samuel the Utahnite

Sunday, January 29, 2006

Glen L. Pace's Memo On Ritualistic Child Abuse!! This Is A Real Shocker If You Haven't Seen It Before!! What Has The Mormon Church Done About it?!!


First I just want to say that I first found this and read this a couple of weeks ago and I was absolutely shocked and repulsed by what I read. I still feel that same way. For many of you, it may be old news, but for me, the recent Mormon apostate, it is new news. I felt that those of you out there that haven't read this, need to read this. People say that there is nothing sinister going on within the Mormon Church? Well, I guess that's not true, according to Glen L. Pace, who is still a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy. So, bitch at him, not me, since these are his words, not mine, you TBMS in denial.

This is a shocking memo that was written by Glen L. Pace, a member of the Presiding Bishopric at the time, now, just a Seventy. Through various reliable Church sources that I've read and researched, I believe that it is 100% authentic. I also trust the Tanners and know that they wouldn't have put it on their website, unless they had thoroughly checked it out and verified it, which they did. The silence of the Church and the fact that they didn't try to sue them over this one, like every other thing, further proves that it is 100% authentic. To read more about it, I highly recommend the following link.

Every time I think that I won't find anything else or any more skeletons in the Mormon Church's closet, something else like this pops up. Imagine the memos that exist internally within the Mormon Church that haven't been leaked. Hopefully someday, someone within the trusted ranks of the Mormon Hierarchy, will leak something else, to give us more of an insight to their lies, fraud and cover-up. A memo like this one, proves that they have many secrets or knowledge of things that they never discuss publicly, let alone with the Saints.

Again, I just wonder, what has the Mormon Church done, if anything, to deal with or address the stunning and startling discoveries of Glen L. Pace? It appears nothing!! All it did was get him demoted back to the First Quorum of the Seventy. Without this memo, he'd probably be an Apostle by now, without a doubt. Also, if he was nuts or crazy, wouldn't they have just released him or put him on Emeritus status? I do have to wonder if the leaking of this memo, was to protect Glen L. Pace and maybe he even leaked it himself, who knows?

I'm sure the Mormon Hierarchy, including Hinckley, wasn't too happy about something like this and that he was doing his own independent research by interviewing these people and revealing that higher ups (Bishops, Stake Presidents, temple workers, Patriarchs, leaders of Young men and young women, etc) were involved in ritualistic child abuse, Satanism and human sacrifice.

Also, that some of it was actually happening in the Church buildings, presumably by someone that has the keys to the Church and a high position of trust. Is this stuff still going on as we speak, like it was back then? Is it worse now and has it grown as he feared it would? I would appreciate any feedback from those of you out there in the know. I find this to be the most shocking, disgusting and revolting thing that I've come across in all of my research. I couldn't believe what I was reading. Do I know or have I ever known someone or had a friend that participated in these things? God I hope not!!

M E M O R A N D U M

Date:July 19, 1990
To:Strengthening Church Members Committee
From:Bishop Glenn L. Pace
Subject: Ritualistic Child Abuse

Pursuant to the Committee's request, I am writing this memorandum to pass along what I have learned about ritualistic child abuse. Hopefully, it will be of some value to you as you continue to monitor the problem. You have already received the LDS Social Services report on satanism dated May 24, 1989, a report from Brent Ward, and a memorandum from myself dated October 20, 1989 in response to Brother Ward's report. Therefore, I will limit this writing to information not contained in those papers.

I have met with sixty victims. That number could be twice or three times as many if I did not discipline myself to only one meeting per week. I have not wanted my involvement with this issue to become a handicap in fulfilling my assigned responsibilities. On the other hand, I felt someone needed to pay the price to obtain an intellectual and spiritual conviction as to the seriousness of this problem within the Church.

Of the sixty victims with whom I have met, fifty-three are female and seven are male. Eight are children. The abuse occurred in the following places: Utah (37), Idaho (3), California (4), Mexico (2), and other places (14). Fifty-three victims are currently living in the State of Utah. All sixty individuals are members of the Church. Forty-five victims allege witnessing and/or participating in human sacrifice. The majority were abused by relatives, often their parents. All have developed psychological problems and most have been diagnosed as having multiple personality disorder or some other form of dissociative disorder.

Ritualistic child abuse is the most hideous of all child abuse. The basic objective is premeditated--to systematically and methodically torture and terrorize children until they are forced to dissociate. The torture is not a consequence of the loss of temper, but the execution of well-planned, well-thought out rituals often performed by close relatives. The only escape for the children is to dissociate. They will develop a new personality to enable them to endure various forms of abuse. When the episode is over, the core personality is again in control and the individual is not conscious of what happened. Dissociation also serves the purposes of the occult because the children have no day-to-day memory of the atrocities. They go through adolescence and early adulthood with no active memory of what is taking place. Oftentimes they continue in rituals through their teens and early twenties, unaware of their involvement. Many individuals with whom I have spoken have served missions and it has not been until later that they begin to remember. One individual has memories of participating in rituals while serving as a full-time missionary.

The victims lead relatively normal lives, but the memories are locked up in a compartment in their minds and surface in various ways. They don't know how to cope with the emotions because they can't find the source. As they become adults and move into another environment, something triggers the memories and, consequently, flashbacks and/or nightmares occur. One day they will have been living a normal life and the next they will be in a mental hospital in a fetal position. The memories of their early childhood are recalled in so much detail that they once again feel the pain that caused the dissociation in the first place.

There are two reasons why adults can remember with such detail events that happened in their past: First, the terror they experienced was so stark that it was indelibly placed in their mind. Second, the memory was compartmentalized in a certain portion of the mind and was not subjected to the dilution of experiences of ensuing years. When it is tapped, it is as fresh as if it happened yesterday.

The memories seem to come in layers. For example, the first memory might be of incest; then they remember robes and candles; next they realize that their father or mother or both were present when they were being abused. Another layer will be the memory of seeing other people hurt and even killed. Then they remember having seen babies killed. Another layer is realizing that they participated in the sacrifices. One of the most painful memories may be that they even sacrificed their own baby. With each layer of memory comes another set of problems with which they must deal.

Some have said that the witnesses to this type of treatment cannot be trusted because of the victim's unstable condition and because practically all of them have some kind of dissociative disorder; in fact, the stories are so bizarre as to raise serious credibility questions. The irony is that one of the objectives of the occult is to create multiple personalities within the children in order to keep the "secrets." They live in society without society having any idea that something is wrong since the children and teenagers don't even realize there is another life occurring in darkness and in secret. However, when sixty witnesses testify to the same type of torture and murder, it becomes impossible for me, personally, not to believe them.

I mention multiple personalities because the spiritual healing which must take place in the lives of these victims cannot happen without their priesthood leaders understanding something about it.

The spiritual indoctrination which takes place during the physical abuse is one of the most difficult to overcome. In addition to experiencing stark terror and pain, the children are also instructed in satanic doctrine. Everything is completely reversed: white is black, black is white, good is bad, bad is good, Satan is going to rule during the Millennium.

Children are put in a situation where they believe they are going to die--such as being buried alive or being placed in a plastic bag and immersed in water. Prior to doing so, the abuser tells the child to pray to Jesus to see if He will save her. Imagine a seven year old girl, having been told she is going to die, praying to Jesus to save her and nothing happens--then at the last moment she is rescued, but the person saving her is a representative of Satan. He uses this experience to convince her that the only person who really cares about her is Satan, she is Satan's child and she might as well become loyal to him.

Just before or shortly after their baptism into the Church, children are baptized by blood into the satanic order which is meant to cancel out their baptism into the Church. They will be asked if they understand or have ever felt the Holy Ghost. When they reply that they have, they will be reminded of the horrible things they have participated in and will be told that they have become a son (or daughter) of perdition and, therefore, have no chance of being saved or loved by our Father in heaven or Jesus.

All of this indoctrination takes place with whichever personality has emerged to endure the physical, mental, and spiritual pain. Consequently, there develops within each of these individuals the makings of what I call a civil war. As the memories begin to surface, there are personalities who feel they have given themselves to Satan, and there is no hope for forgiveness. The core person is an active member of the Church, often with a temple recommend. As integration takes place, the civil war begins. Sometimes, in an interview, personalities of the dark side have come out. They are petrified or perhaps full of hate for me and what I represent. Eventually those personalities need to be dealt with spiritually and psychologically.

Most victims are suicidal. They have been brainwashed with drugs, hypnosis, and other means to become suicidal as soon as they start to tell the secrets. They have been threatened all of their lives that if they don't do what they are told their brother or sister will die, their parents will die, their house will be burned, or they themselves will be killed. They have every reason to believe it since they have seen people killed. They believe they might as well kill themselves instead of wait for the occult to do it. Some personalities feel it is the right thing to do.

The purpose of this detail is to stress the complexity of psychological and spiritual therapy for these individuals. Our priesthood leaders, when faced with such cases, are understandably at a loss of how to respond. Orthodox counsel is completely ineffective. For example, some victims have been told that this all happened in their past and that they should put it behind them and get on with their lives. This is just not possible. Part of the spiritual therapy necessary is for priesthood leaders to assist with the conversion process of the personalities who have been indoctrinated into satanism. Victims must integrate their personalities so that they can function as whole persons and be able to deal with their problems and then get on with their lives. Often, some of the parts will begin to act out--perhaps promiscuously--and a good intentioned priesthood leader, following the General Handbook of Instructions, will disfellowship or excommunicate an individual. All this does is reinforce the satanic indoctrination of the victims that they are no good.

I'm sorry to say that many of the victims have had their first flashbacks while attending the temple for the first time. The occult along the Wasatch Front uses the doctrine of the Church to their advantage. For example, the verbiage and gestures are used in a ritualistic ceremony in a very debased and often bloody manner. When the victim goes to the temple and hears the exact words, horrible memories are triggered. We have recently been disturbed with members of the Church who have talked about the temple ceremony. Compared to what is happening in the occult along the Wasatch Front, these are very minor infractions. The perpetrators are also living a dual life. Many are temple recommend holders. This leads to another reason why the Church needs to consider the seriousness of these problems. In affect, the Church is being used.

I go out of my way to not let the victims give me the names of the perpetrators. I have told them that my responsibility is to help them with spiritual healing and that the names of perpetrators should be given to therapists and law enforcement officers. However, they have told me the positions in the Church of members who are perpetrators. Among others, there are Young Women leaders, Young Men leaders, bishops, a patriarch, a stake president, temple workers, and members of the Tabernacle Choir. These accusations are not coming from individuals who think they recognized someone, but from those who have been abused by people they know, in many cases their own family members.

Whatever the form of abuse our main concern is for the victims, but there are legal ramifications. We are disturbed to receive reports that a scoutmaster has abused the boys in his troop. It is not difficult to imagine what would happen if we learn that a bishop or stake president has participated in the abominations of ritualistic child abuse. Not only do some of the perpetrators represent a cross section of the Mormon culture, but sometimes the abuse has taken place in our own meetinghouses.

I don't pretend to know how prevalent the problem is. All I know is that I have met with 60 victims. Assuming each one comes from a coven of 13, we are talking about the involvement of 800 or so right here on the Wasatch Front. Obviously, I have only seen those coming forth to get help. They are in their twenties and thirties for the most part. I can only assume that it is expanding geometrically and am horrified the numbers represented by the generation who are now children and teenagers.

Another reason for concern is that there are several doctrinal issues that need to be resolved. The Church and society in general are very skeptical as to whether the occult and its activities do exist. There is no First Presidency statement relative to some of the doctrinal issues: What does a priesthood leader tell individuals who come forward and say that they have participated in these rituals--which may include human sacrifice? Should they have a temple recommend? Will they ever be forgiven? There are questions regarding free agency and accountability. Is a person who has been raised in an occult from infancy accountable for things that take place in a dissociated state, even though those acts were committed after the age of eight? I have formed my own opinions to these questions and have done the best I can. However, I don't have the mantle to make these doctrinal and policy decisions. I have relied on the mantle of a bishop regarding discernment and being a common judge.

The few priesthood leaders who have had to face these issues are crying out for help because they don't want to give their own opinions and yet there is no place to go for an answer. A bishop will go to his stake president who says he doesn't believe it is happening and that the member is just crazy. The stake president might go to an Area Presidency who will react in a similar way. Most people are afraid to surface it to the First Presidency for fear of getting the same reaction and don't want to appear crazy themselves for asking the question.

I hope you will excuse me if I am being presumptuous, but I am concluding this paper with scriptures I feel support my belief that these activities are real and cannot be ignored.

The things I have been writing about go back to Cain and Abel:

And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.

And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.

And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness. (Moses 5:29-31.)

All of the experiences I have heard about have to do with secrecy, swearing not to tell, murdering to get gain and power:

Wherefore Lamech, being angry, slew him, not like unto Cain, his brother Abel, for the sake of getting gain, but he slew him for the oath's sake.

For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother. (Moses 5:50-51.)

And then in Moses 6:15 we learn that as people began to fill the earth, so did these secret works:

And the children of men were numerous upon all the face of the land. And in those days Satan had great dominion among men, and raged in their hearts; and from thenceforth came wars and bloodshed; and a man's hand was against his own brother, in administering death, because of secret works, seeking for power.

The Book of Mormon is replete with descriptions of these secret murderous combinations as well as prophecies that they will always be with us:

And our spirits must have become like unto him, and we become devils, angels to a devil, to be shut out from the presence of our God, and to remain with the father of lies, in misery, like unto himself; yea, to that being who beguiled out first parents, who transformeth himself nigh unto an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness. (2 Nephi 9:9.)

Wherefore, for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations. (2 Nephi 10:15.)

And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever. (2 Nephi 26:22.)

In Alma, we find that the Lord commanded some of the prophets not to write any of the secret works, especially of the secret oaths, so that they would not become known by generations to follow, but that they might be warned that they do exist:

And now, I will speak unto you concerning those twenty-four plates, that ye keep them, that the mysteries and the works of darkness, and their secret works, or the secret works of those people who have been destroyed, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, all their murders, and robbings, and their plunderings, and all their wickedness and abominations, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, and that ye preserve these interpreters. . . .

I will bring forth out of darkness unto light all their secret works and their abominations; and except they repent I will destroy them from off the face of the earth; and I will bring to light all their secrets and abominations, unto every nation that shall hereafter possess the land.

And now, my son, we see that they did not repent; therefore they have been destroyed, and thus far the word of God has been fulfilled; yea, their secret abominations have been brought out of darkness and made known unto us.

And now, my son, I command you that ye retain all their oaths,, and their covenants, and their agreements in their secret abominations; yea, and all their signs and their wonders ye shall keep from this people, that they know them not, lest peradventure they should fall into darkness also and be destroyed.

For behold, there is a curse upon all this land, that destruction shall come upon all those workers of darkness, according to the power of God, when they are fully ripe; therefore I desire that this people might be destroyed. (Alma 37:21, 25-28.)

In Helaman, the name of Gadianton is introduced and becomes descriptive throughout the Book of Mormon relative to the secret combinations.

But behold, Kishkumen, who had murdered Pahoran, did lay wait to destroy Helaman also; and he was upheld by his band, who had entered into a covenant that no one should know his wickedness.

For there was one Gadianton, who was exceedingly expert in many words, and also in his craft, to carry on the secret work of murder and of robbery; therefore he became the leader of the band of Kishkumen. . . .

And when the servant of Helaman had known all the heart of Kishkumen, and how that it was his object to murder, and also that it was the object of all those who belonged to his band to murder, and to rob, and to gain power, (and this was their secret plan, and their combination) the servant of Helaman said unto Kishkumen: Let us go forth unto the judgment-seat. (Helaman 2:3-4, 8.)

It was true then as it is now that these things were not known by the general populace or by the government:

And it came to pass in the forty and ninth year of the reign of the judges, there was continual peace established in the land, all save it were the secret combinations which Gadianton the robber had established in the more settled parts of the land, which at that time were not known unto those who were at the head of government; therefore they were not destroyed out of the land. (Helaman 3:23.)

In chapter 6, we learn that in spite of the Lord's command to the prophets not to write these things, Satan is capable, and always has been, of revealing his secrets to his followers just as the Lord has revealed His will to the prophets.

And now behold, those murderers and plunderers were a band who had been formed by Kishkumen and Gadianton. And now it had come to pass that there were many, even among the Nephites, of Gadianton's band. But behold, they were more numerous among the more wicked part of the Lamanites. And they were called Gadianton's robbers and murderers.

But behold, Satan did stir up the hearts of the more part of the Nephites, insomuch that they did unite with those bands of robbers, and did enter into their covenants and their oaths, that they would protect and preserve one another in whatsoever difficult circumstances they should be placed, that they should not suffer for their murders, and their plunderings, and their stealings.

And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant, that whatsoever wickedness his brother should do he should not be injured by his brother, nor by those who did belong to his band, who had taken this covenant.

And thus they might murder and plunder, and steal, and commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness, contrary to the laws of their country and also the laws of their God.

And whosoever of those who belonged to their band should reveal unto the world of their wickedness and their abominations, should be tried, not according to the laws of their country, but according to the laws of their wickedness, which had been given by Gadianton and Kishkumen.

Now behold, it is these secret oaths and covenants which Alma commanded his son should not go forth unto the world, lest they should be a means of bringing down the people unto destruction.

Now behold, those secret oaths and covenants did not come forth unto Gadianton from the records which were delivered unto Helaman; but behold, they were put into the heart of Gadianton by that same being who did entice our first parents to partake of the forbidden fruit. . . .

Yea, it is that same being who put it into the heart of Gadianton to still carry on the work of darkness, and of secret murder; and he has brought it forth from the beginning of man even down to this time.

And behold, it is he who is the author of all sin. And behold, he doth carry on his works of darkness and secret murder, and doth hand down their plots, and their oaths, and their covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness, from generation to generation according as he can get hold upon the hearts of the children of men. (Helaman 6:18, 21-26, 29-30.)

In light of this scripture, it is naive for us to think these things would not exist in our own generation. We know this is the last dispensation, the dispensation of the fulness of times. Surely Satan would not "pass" on this most important dispensation.

In Helaman 8:1 we learn that people in high places were members of the Gadianton band and secret combinations:

And now it came to pass that when Nephi had said these words, behold, there were men who were judges, who also belonged to the secret band of Gadianton, and they were angry, and they cried out against him, saying unto the people: Why do ye not seize upon this man and bring him forth, that he may be condemned according to the crime which he has done?

We have allegations to indicate that this is true of people in high places today in both the Church and the government who are leading this dual life. The secret combinations were mentioned all through the Book of Mormon. In Mormon 1:18-19 we read that these Gadianton robbers were still alive and well and functioning:

And these Gadianton robbers, who were among the Lamanites, did infest the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof began to hide up their treasures in the earth; and they became slippery, because the Lord had cursed the land, that they could not hold them, nor retain them again.

And it came to pass that there were sorceries, and witchcrafts, and magics; and the power of the evil one was wrought upon all the face of the land, even unto the fulfilling of all the words of Abinadi, and also Samuel the Lamanite.

In Mormon 8:27 there is a prophecy that secret combinations will be among us in our time:

And it shall come in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the Lord, because of secret combinations and the works of darkness.

The extent of the evil that mankind will perpetrate on another is told in Moroni 9:10:

And after they had done this thing, they did murder them in a most cruel manner, torturing their bodies even unto death; and after they have done this, they devour their flesh like unto wild beasts, because of the hardness of their hearts; and they do it for a token of bravery.

Many of us have read this all of our lives and click our tongues at how awful it would be to live in such a time. Those victims with whom I have spoken testify to these things going on all around us today. In Ether we are told that they will exist amongst us, the gentiles, and we are also warned that we should do something about it:

And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.

And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.

And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.

Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain--and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.

Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. (Ether 8:20-24.)

In summary, we live in the last dispensation of the fulness of times and Satan is here with his secret combinations in all of the ugliness that existed in previous dispensations. The scriptures prophesy to that reality. I also believe that the scriptures cited and many others that could be quoted argue against our being passive about the problem. I don't want to be known as an alarmist or a fanatic on the issue. Now that I have put what I have learned in writing to you, I feel the issue is in the right court. I hope to take a low profile on the subject and get on with the duties which I have been formally assigned. This is not to say I would not be willing to be of service. Over the last eighteen months I have acquired a compassionate love and respect for the victims who are fighting for the safety of their physical lives and, more importantly, their souls.

One thing that really hit home with me, during the scripture part,was the realization of how much the Book of Mormon and Joseph's "book of Moses", discusses the devil, evil works, darkness, oaths, secret combinations, etc, etc. It's all over the Book of Mormon!! It makes one wonder how involved Joseph must have really been in these things.

We know that he was deeply involved in the occult, which included treasure hunting, seer stones, divining rods, and so forth. He had the experience of Satan attacking him in the woods, almost choking him he says, before he claims to have seen Jesus and God the Father. He saw Satan on the water, thus saying that Satan had control over the waters and the reason missionaries can't swim on their missions.

Just how much of the Mormon doctrine and superstition, is founded in the teaching of the occult? I'm sure that it goes much deeper than we can even imagine and hopefully, one day, these things will come to light.

Are these groups that are doing this, descendants of the early founders of the Church? Are they just carrying on the tradition of darkness that was begun by Joseph Smith and his followers? Again, one can't help but wonder these things after reading a memo like this. I don't have the answers but I'd sure like to know and hopefully one day, we will.

To close this post, I want to re-visit Joseph Smith's First Vision, where he describes in detail, how Satan attacked him. This is the version that is currently part of Mormon Scripture in the Joseph Smith History, from the Pearl of Great Price.

15 After I had retired to the place where I had previously designed to go, having looked around me, and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.

16 But, exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the power of this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destruction—not to an imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual being from the unseen world, who had such marvelous power as I had never before felt in any being—just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me.

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.

19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” It seems as though the adversary was aware, at a very early period of my life, that I was destined to prove a disturber and an annoyer of his kingdom; else why should the powers of darkness combine against me? Why the opposition and persecution that arose against me, almost in my infancy?

When you read the above memo from Glen L. Pace and then the first vision, it's pretty interesting, isn't it? Then you go to the Joseph Smith website and you won't find one single word about his experience with Satan, NOTHING!! It's as if he walked into the woods, knelt down to pray and there was God the Father and Jesus Christ in that pillar of light. Why is that? Why would the Mormon Church hide such an important fact, on a website, that is meant to recruit and educate non-members about the life and person of Joseph Smith?

But, it is good to see that Joseph Smith considered the power of Satan, to be a "MARVELOUS POWER" that he "HAD NEVER FELT IN ANY BEING!!"

Samuel the Utahnite