I wanted to say a special thanks to Elder Joseph for making me aware of this news story and video. With all that I have going on, I somehow missed it. It was also on at least one other local Utah TV station last night. They have seized this guys hard drive and are now wondering if there are more victims. Timothy Mccleve was the local Bishop until 2004.
This is just another example for you TBMS out there reading this, that your leaders are not inspired, right up the line to your beloved, so called Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, or they would know about these things far in advance and prevent them, with their amazing "spirit of perception", which doesn't exist.
Hard to believe that this man, if guilty, just "suddenly" became a pedophile and we'll see what other evidence they find and how far it goes back. One thing for certain, if he did do this, is that he used the trust he gained from being their Bishop, to gain access to the victims and their family, which is why he isn't being charged with 3 regular felonies, but 3 special ones.
Oh yeah, and don't give me that "free agency" bullshit!! How many times have I heard from you TBMS; "Hinckley and gang must allow the free agency of sexual predators, to attack, rape and even kill little girls, because it's God's plan and they can't interfere with it, etc, etc, etc? How pathetic!! Then what the hell is a Prophet for? So, are they actually saying that he knows, but just like God, does nothing about it? By the way, the Christians I've talked to use the same EXACT excuse for God and why he can't intervene.
In other words, human beings have more love, compassion, willingness and ability to stop sexual predators, murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc, than God does. Yeah, that makes sense that human beings have more power than a God that is supposedly Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent, doesn't it? Give me a break!!
I also find it interesting that these nuts say they would save their child, loved one and friend, if they knew the date, time and place of where they were going to be killed or attacked, but then go onto defend why God doesn't and CAN'T intervene, despite having all that information, if he is what they claim he is.
But using that type of jacked up logic, I guess that would explain how George P. Lee from the 1st Quorum of the Seventy, got away with sexual abuse right under the noses of the Mormon Prophet, his counselors and the Apostles, for 3 years, right? Tell his victim it was meant to be. As Demon of Kolob has pointed out in our Skypecasts, the Prophet and co. didn't do anything about George P. Lee, until he started speaking out about the church leaders and then the sex abuse scandal suddenly broke. Interesting timing, isn't it?
Gee, it almost sounds like they knew, doesn't it? Hard to believe that it could go on for 3 years and nobody knew anything, especially with their direct connection to God and Jesus, right? Then again, we are talking about the same God and Jesus of the Bible, that ordered mass executions of innocent men, women and CHILDREN, so maybe it does make sense, if he's the same scumbag, loser, murderer of a God, that is "leading" and "inspiring" the Mormon Prophets.
I guess if the Mormon God can create the Mountain Meadows Massacre through his Prophet Brigham Young, why would he give a damn about anybody, right? After all, blood atonement was a big deal to Brigham Young and he claimed it came inspired, directly from his loving God.
I've asked the question before and I'll keep asking it, to drive home my point; if Gordon B. Hinckley, the head cheese in Mormonland, can't stop child sex abuse predators(right under his nose, i.e. Mormon Bishops/Stake Presidents/Bishopric members/choir members/BYU Professors), before they strike, then just what the hell good is the guy, as he's completely worthless.
I'd also like to point out once again that the Mormon Hierarchy prides itself on doing background checks on all people(Oleg Barabash...oops!!) that submit articles to their beloved Ensign magazine(Jesus' monthly magazine), but do not bother or care to do them for Bishops, Stake President, Sunday School and Primary teachers, etc and just rely on their "power of discernment" and the Mormon "Holy Ghost." Interesting isn't it, that the Mormon "Holy Ghost" can work for discerning callings, but not for who is writing articles for Jesus' monthly magazine? WTF?!!
So, Gordon B. Hinckley, through his supposed "great Prophetic powers from on high"(the only man on the entire earth that can speak and act on behalf of God in official capacity), can't stop sexual predators, murders, rapists, pedophiles, can't predict earthquakes or Tsunamis or fires or anything else that I'm aware of. And you guys "thank God for a Prophet" that can't and doesn't "guide you in these latter-days?" What does he exactly prophesy about?
In fact, other than spending billions of dollars buying malls and reconstructing downtown Salt Lake City, telling women how many earrings to wear, issuing a challenge to everyone to read the Book of Mormon, speaking in conference every 6 months, and dedicating more temples(the majority of which sit empty most of the week outside of Utah), while waving around his cane or white handkerchief; WHAT DOES HE ACTUALLY DO?!!
After all, anyone one of us with half of a functioning braincell, could easily accomplish those elementary and effortless tasks, without any guidance from some God or inspiration from above.
Explain to all of us in ex-Mormon land and the real world, how Hinckley is different from an ordinary person and has these supernatural powers from God and how he uses them; yet make sure you keep claiming how he's also just a man, a normal guy and only mortal like the rest of us.
Then realize that your explanation of him completely contradicts itself and is just excusing his lack of doing anything worthwhile or prophesying, because he's either an inspired "Prophet of God" and a "Prophet, Seer and Revelator", that "can't ever lead you astray without God removing him" or he's just a NORMAL DUDE and a complete "fraud", to use Hinckley's own word. Like he himself says, it's all either "black or white", with "no middle ground."
When will you wake up and stop standing at attention, with tears in your eyes, when this mere mortal of a man just walks into a room, waving his cane around? When will you stop giving him your money, so that he can blow it on whatever he wants to, with absolutely no accountability or reporting back to those that gave it to him?
Wake up folks and realize that it's all a scam and unfortunately, a lot of people are being hurt in the process, by trusting and believing in these "special powers of discernment" and "the spirit"(that are 100% non-existent), like these 3 little girls and their families.
Let's hope that if this former Bishop, Timothy Mccleve, is indeed a sexual pervert/pedophile and guilty of being a sexual predator(just like Joseph Smith Jr. was), that there won't be any more victims, past or present, and that they caught him, before he could prey on more innocent little girls. Notice that it's always the police that catch them and not any inspiration from God or his so called Prophets?
It's time to realize that Mormonism is nothing more than a destructive cult; always has been and always will be and good, honest, trusting people are being tremendously hurt, completely devastated and taken advantage of in the process.
Hey, this reminds me of a talk, given in the April 2005 Mormon General Conference entitled: "Beware of the Evil behind the Smiling Eyes." Yeah, beware is right, because these smiling eyes are the Mormon General Authorities. Ironic title for a talk, isn't it?!!
Samuel the Utahnite
