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Saturday, November 29, 2008

A BYU Student Is Punished In A Church "Court Of Love" & Then Heads Up To The Provo Temple Despondent & Angry, With A Handgun..No Surprise Here!!


This is just another tragic tale of what MORmONISM does to otherwise normal and happy people!! Everything's fine until you screw up or are accused of screwing up and then all bets are off and they'll be coming after you with everything they have, including spies, who will secretly watch you and report back to the Bishop or Stake President.

Here is the direct link to this video story.

This poor guy may have done something or may be 100% innocent and only accused of doing something by the BYU Nazi students, that are so proud and happy to fabricate lies about others(as they are trained from birth to do), without any thought whatsoever of the consequences and what it will do to someone and the pain it will cause them in their lives.

In any case, this kid's Bishop or Stake President called a "court of love" for him, didn't care about his side of the story, judged whether or not he was really repentant and sorrowful and then they probably excommunicated him or at least disfellowshipped him, knowing EXACTLY what they were going to do before they even did it.

The whole court bullshit in MORmONISM is just another MORmON power play, sham and lie, as they actually pretend that they don't know what they're going to do before they do it. It's just another way to show you how worthless you are and how powerful they are.


Just ask Simon Southerton who wrote "Losing A Lost Tribe" or Chad Hardy of "Men On A Mission" fame, who were both singled out and excommunicated....for simply writing a book and making a calendar. Simon's excommunication was 7+ years after he was even active in the cult and had resigned as a Bishop and oh, he was even forbidden to speak about his "scary book" during the court(they were terrified it might de-convert people in the court), as they went after him for adultery instead, that had long since been resolved, as he was back with his wife for years at the time of the court.



Just for the record...what they show(men and women's skin abundantly, with NO MORmON garments in sight, as I've shown above in the video) at the 100% MORmON owned and operated Polynesian Cultural Center in Laie, Hawaii(the home of BYU-HAWAII), is far worse than what is in Chad's calendar and by the way, the next to naked men and women that parade around all day and dance in the final night show at the PCC are BYU students...WOW...what a shocker, more hypocrisy eh?

Oh and they also serve, in the name of the MORmON Jesus Christ And Tommy Boy Monson...the "forbidden and I can't drink it and get baptized or go to the temple or have eternal life or an eternal family" caffeinated coffee to their visitors upon request, along with caffeinated Pepsi products, which are FORBIDDEN at BYU and forbidden period according to the last MORmON PRophet of fraud Gordon "boozer" Hinckley!!

Now, why would this kid do what he did and feel such depression and desperation and want to possibly kill himself? Well, being punished while at BYU means that you are being kicked out of BYU, ostracized by EVERYONE and that EVERYONE(where you live, work, your roommates and who you go to class with, plus your family, girlfriend, etc, etc) knows that you did something terrible and are now NOT WORTHY to be a student at the precious BYU.

On top of that, part of the MORmON repentance process, if he wants to get back into the cult someday; is to tell his family and friends what he did and apologize to them for hurting them through his dirty deeds...yeah, that will help when they all condemn him and bow their head in shame on behalf of him.

Furthermore, they kick your ass out of the cult for whatever reason and then give you no support or help and basically leave you to rot(but telling you that they love you so much), banning you from even praying and participating in meetings. Funny way to show love, isn't it?!!


By the way this is not the first time that a BYU student has headed up to the Provo temple with a gun and I know of one that even tragically killed himself right at the front gates. Does the MORmON hierarchy care? Of course they don't, as they don't even care about their missionaries, as current Asspostle M. Russell Ballard clearly stated a couple of years ago.


Ballard doesn't care if more missionaries die!!

If Ballard is so cold and heartless that he doesn't give a damn if one of his "precious" missionaries get hurt or killed(the cult wouldn't progress at all or gain converts or increased filthy lucre and future shopping malls without them)...then he certainly wouldn't care if any member died, like this poor kid, no matter how tragic it was or if he was the DIRECT cause. There's a reason why Utah has one of the highest suicide rates in the USA, especially for teenage suicides.

What is so sick, is how these arrogant bastards treat you in a "court of love", as described by
Margaret Toscano in the MORmON Hierarchy praised and linked to PBS Documentary, who was excommunicated in 2000 for just being a feminist and speaking openly about a "Mormon Heavenly Mother." 7 years earlier, they had FORBIDDEN her to speak publicly about anything that had to do with MORmONISM and had threatened her membership then. The link above explains it all and you'll know everything you need to know.

The most bizarre, twisted and sickening thing is how the Bishop and those involved in the court treat you after they've announced that you're excommunicated. Margeret Toscano described it as follows:

"Then he said: "However, you are excommunicated. We have found you to be an apostate." ... I'm a nice apostate, I guess, right? [Laughs.] I'm a nice apostate. ... Then he proceeded to explain to me what that meant, what the consequences of that are. And then at the end -- and this struck me as extremely bizarre on one level, that after he made the pronouncement and told me what it meant to be excommunicated, and the fact that you're not allowed to wear your temple garments, that you're not allowed to participate in meetings, that your name is no longer on the church records and all of your church ordinances are canceled and so forth -- then when it was over, everybody got up. In fact, they were just always so concerned about being polite to me, and they all wanted to shake my hand. It just struck me as so bizarre on one level, that here you've excommunicated me, which means that I no longer can go to the celestial kingdom and be part of the community of Saints, and yet you want to shake my hand and tell me I'm a nice person and that you really weren't trying to do me any harm. It just struck me as so -- [Laughs.] -- ironic on a certain level.

Then I left, and they wanted to make sure they walked me out to the parking lot, because it was 10:30 at night, and so there was this politeness. ... In fact, I afterwards talked about sort of the horror of niceness -- that on the one hand they're cutting me off from eternal salvation and telling me that I'm this apostate, which really is considered very bad in Mormon culture, and then I'm this nice woman that they're going to shake my hand. There's something vicious about niceness that struck me in this -- that the niceness covered over the violence of what was being done, because, in fact, excommunication is a violent action. And yet you had this veneer of niceness that covers it over. That was horrifying to me. Afterward it almost made me shudder, that incongruity between the violence of that excommunication and the niceness of the discourse that went on."

Again, keep in mind that LDS/MORmON Inc not only approved whole-heartedly of this PBS documentary, but praised it, bragged about it and STILL link to it from Jesus Christ's official website. I think she described "horror of niceness" and "vicious about niceness" that she experienced and that this young man I'm posting about, which truly how sick, twisted and demented these men and this cult really is.

Here is a clip of Margaret Toscano interview listed above:




Margaret Toscano's "Violently nice" Excommunication From The MORmON Cult!!
Uploaded by SamueltheUtahnite

Well, I hope that this kid will be okay and will somehow get the support he needs from his family and friends, which is doubtful if they're still die-hard MORmON cultists who choose the church over him. Let's hope that they didn't raise him with the "Better Of Dead" doctrine, which wouldn't be a surprise either, especially if they're Utah born and raised MORmONS.

I wish him the best and I hope that he will realize that the MORmON ASSHOLES(The Bishop & Stake President & others in the room) have done him a great favor and let's hope that he'll never return to the MORmON cult or their Nazi University and will see the light and then help others to leave the cult.

Here is a reminder of the MORmON cult's "Better Off Dead" doctrine from a video that I made:



Are you all seeing a common theme yet, between what M. Russell Ballard(A direct descendant of Joseph Smith) said about not caring if missionaries died and the doctrines that they teach regarding "Better Off Dead", that I've shown in the video above?

Gee, why would depression and suicide be among the top in the country, here in Utah...hmmm...I can't figure it out...63% MORmONS in Utah...hmmm...what could it be?!!

As always, I look forward to your comments guys and I hope that the things I post here and record in future podcasts will continue to help you or someone that you know, to know THE TRUTH about the fraud and dangers of MORmONISM, as people are actually dying for and because of this evil, vile cult of death, EVERY SINGLE DAY!!

Samuel the Utahnite

Saturday, November 22, 2008

Will The "MORmON LORD" Step In & Cause Magic To Happen Again..Allowing BYU To Beat Utah Today Because They're "Living Right On & Off The Field?" LOL!!




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Utah Utes-48 BYU bigots-24...WOW...I guess they've been doing some pretty bad things "on and off the field" down there in Provo, because "the 'MORmON' Lord" didn't "step in" and "magic" didn't happen...OOPS...LOL!!

Time to go see your Bishop Austin Collie, along with the rest of the team(especially quarterback Max Hall, who had 4...YES...4 ints and ZERO TDS) that was obviously doing some VERY naughty things, right Austin?

Hey Bronco...what happened to your supposed "Band of Brothers" and "Stripling Warriors", as they got their ASSES KICKED from one end of the field to the other...LOL!!


It reminded me A LOT of the TCU game and how they royally kicked your asses and made Max Hall and company look like the amateur that he is. He's got NO SHOT at the NFL and will go undrafted for sure!!

Thanks for making my day guys...let's do it again next year okay?!!


LMFAO!!
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Or have they NOT been living right "on and off the field" and having dirty thoughts, going on single dates alone with girls, dating interracially or non-members, masturbating(which leads to homosexuality and bestiality, according to their beloved Prophet Spencer W. Kimball), maybe getting some Levi Lovin' on the side, etc?

Well, according to Austin Collie, we'll find out today based on whether they win or loose. I don't even want to know what those BYU players or coaches were involved in that caused them to be embarrassed on national TV, getting their asses handed to them by TCU...can you imagine how naughty they must have been...what was it...32-7...DAMN!!


We're talking serious sins for the MORmON Jesus to punish them that badly and I'm sure their Bishops were very busy(but excited to hear graphic details of their confessions) that week...LOL!!

How about when they got lucky and BARELY beat Washington this year 28-27, exposing them and showing the world how shitty they really are. By the way, as of this week, Washington is 0-10 and their coach has already been fired before the season is even over. He will coach through their last game.

To prove just how shitty BYU is...here are some other samples of Washington's other games this season and how badly they lost:

Oregon-Lost 10-44, Oklahoma-Lost 14-55, Arizona-Lost 14-48, Oregon St.-Lost 13-34, Notre Dame-Lost 7-33, Southern Cal.-Lost 0-56, Arizona St.-Lost 19-39, UCLA-Lost 7-27.

Many of those teams are also pretty shitty!!

BYU beat Utah last year again(November 25, 2007) in football, for the 2nd year in a row and Jesus' star wide receiver Austin Collie, caught a 49 yard bomb, on 4th and 18, as it was BYU's(Jesus') last gasp or they would have lost the game 10-9...which Jesus Christ wasn't about to let happen to his personal football team, that plays, hits, tackles and gets personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties in his name, every week.

Do they have to repent and go confess to their Bishop when they crush a guy out of bounds, or put a late hit on quarterback after the whistle, on purpose, with the intent to hurt someone? Do they lose their temple recommends, or get put on probation, disfellowshipped or excommunicated for it?

Just to review, after the game, Austin Collie said what I've posted in this video, basically saying that because he/they(the BYU football players) were living right on and off the field, "The Lord" intervened and made "magic happen" and helped them beat Utah.

Austin Collie Said:

"I wouldn't say it was lucky, I would just say that we just executed the play..uh..well and uh..we should have had another one..um.. but OBVIOUSLY you know when you're doing what's right on and off the field..uh...I..I think The Lord steps in and...and...uh...plays a..you know...plays a part in that...magic happens."

That should pump up you Ute fans...you DAMN SINNERS!!

Austin Collie then responded with the following statement, after being heavily and rightfully criticized and laughed at for his arrogant comment, even accusing everyone that was criticizing him as being racists.(ironic coming from a white dude who is part of one of the most racist, hate-filled churches/cult/universities in the world, with BYU being named after Brigham Young, one of the most racist, hate-filled, bigoted bastards that has ever lived:

"I just think it's absolutely ridiculous that people take something like that and blow it up," he said. "I really think it's because I'm a MORMON WHITE KID from Brigham Young University. Anybody else says that from any other team and it's just how spiritual that guy is."

The flip-side of this little comment and what has pissed off and riled up Utah fans so much(and I don't blame them one bit), is that Austin Collie was basically saying that Utah lost, because THEY WEREN'T LIVING RIGHT!!(or in other words, are mostly non-Mormons who probably have sex out of wedlock, drink, masturbate, have dirty thoughts, etc, in his biased, self-righteous opinion of course)

He later denied that was what he was saying or meant, but it clearly was, as it just popped in his head naturally and then proudly slid out his MORmON mouth, because such statements and thoughts are normal for Mormons, in all of their arrogant "I'm better than the rest of the non-Mormon world", "I have the one and only truth" and "I'm a MORmON 'God-in-embryo'" attitude, that offends so many people.

BYU and UTAH hate each other with a passion and every year they play, it's called "The Holy War." Bronco Mendenhall, the BYU head coach, ridiculously calls his team "the stripling warriors", referring to "the stripling warriors" from The Book of Mormon(who NEVER existed) and makes many other irritating Book of Mormon references all the time.

It would be like Pete Carroll of USC using Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck to motivate his team and quoting things publicly that they supposedly said and from their movies and comic books...LOL!! The rest of the world would think he is nuts and insane, just as I'm sure people think about Bronco Mendenhall.

Ironically, and in a twist, the Utah head coach kyle whittingham is a BYU graduate and the last Mormon Prophet of fraud Gordon B. Hinckley, graduated from the University of Utah in 1932 or what Mormons consider to be "Satan's university."

GO UTAH, SHOW THEM WHO IS REALLY LIVING RIGHT, MAKE THEIR "JESUS/LORD" CRY AND KICK THEIR ASSES ALL OVER THE FIELD...ALL THE WAY TO KOLOB!!

Samuel the Utahnite

Thursday, June 14, 2007

"I have no doubt, (based on)what I have studied..that Mormons, including local leaders of our church, were prime movers/participated in the killing."








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This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, from "The Mormons", declaring:

"I have no doubt, on the basis of what I have studied and learned, that Mormons, including local leaders of our church, were prime movers in that terrible episode and participated in the killing."

He then also says:

“I pray that he(The Lord) can find a way to forgive those who took such a terrible action against their fellow beings.”

In reality, the Church has already completely forgiven John D. Lee, the only man ever held accountable, who was executed for the crime, while over 100 other men were never held accountable by Brigham Young or anyone else, due to their “vow of silence”, which would result in death if broken.

In 1961, the Mormon First Presidency reinstated all of John D. Lee's blessings, including his temple blessings, meaning that they, the Mormon Hierarchy and Prophet, have indeed completely forgiven John D. Lee, as if he did nothing at all and his sins are now white as snow.


"For more than a hundred years, the families of John D. Lee have borne the opprobrium of the massacre alone. For that reason, they have welcomed every effort to probe the question; certainly no truth could be worse than the stories to which they were subjected. Now they have special cause to rejoice, for on April 20, 1961, the First Presidency and the Council of Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints met in joint council, and: 'It was the action of the Council after considering all the facts available that authorization be given for the reinstatement to membership and former blessings [temple marriages] to John D. Lee.' Word of this was sent out to members of the family, and on May 8 and 9, the necessary ordinances were performed in the Salt Lake Temple. A complete record is in the files of the Latter-day Saints Genealogical Society." (Mountain Meadows Massacre, p. 223)

It's hard to understand this reinstating of John D. Lee's complete blessings, when Joseph Smith and Mormon doctrine clearly teaches that Murder is unforgivable, let alone MASS MURDER. Gee, I wonder how they explain this?

I beg all TBMS and Mormon Apologists, to enlighten all of us evil ex-Mormons, as to how this can be. Doesn't this contradict your beloved Joseph Smith and his teachings?

Joseph Smith supposedly received the following revelation from Jesus Christ:

SECTION 132

27 The blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall not be forgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit murder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be damned, saith the Lord.

To further support what was recorded in the D&C, Joseph Smith also clearly taught that murderers cannot have eternal life, cannot be saved, cannot be baptized for the remission of sins and that they will all literally go to hell, which must be outer darkness, since hell is not a Mormon glory.

Joseph Smith said:

“A murderer for instance, one that sheds innocent blood, cannot have forgiveness.” (Teachings Of The Prophet Joseph Smith-Page 339)

I also hope that since, Dallin H. Oaks and the Mormon Hierarchy, have now finally admitted that “Mormons, including local leaders of our church, were prime movers in that terrible episode and participated in the killing”, that this will free up the families of those who were brutally executed that day at Mountain Meadows, to finally be able to file a class action lawsuit against the Mormon church and the current Hierarchy.

This statement by Dallin H. Oaks, admitting fault, also contradicts Hinckley, who said the following on Sept 11, 1999:

"No one can explain what happened in these meadows 142 years ago. We may speculate, but we do not know. We do not understand it. We cannot comprehend it. We can only say that the past is long since gone."

and

"That which we have done here must never be construed as an acknowledgment of the part of the church of any complicity in the occurrences of that fateful day."



It looks like Hinckley, the current Mormon Prophet and Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle, need to have a private meeting and discuss the descrpencies that exist their public statements.

Also, based on the other comment by Dallin H. Oaks, which I just posted the other day, clearly stating that, “It's wrong to criticize leaders of the church, even if the criticism is true”, this means that even though he has now admitted that church leaders "were prime movers in that terrible episode and participated in the killing” of around 120 innocent men, women and children; you cannot criticize them for it and in fact, he probably wants you to follow his lead and pray that they will all be forgiven, just like they’ve forgiven John D. Lee.

Samuel the Utahnite

Saturday, March 17, 2007

Did The Mormon Apostle And Future Prophet Heber J. Grant, Actually Utter The N-Word From The Pulpit At General Conference?


The answer sadly, is YES he did!! I'm not sure how Mormon Apologists are gonna explain this one away, other than to say, once again that "he was just a product of the times" and he was "just speaking as a man", etc, etc, even though he was addressing the Saints in a General Conference in October of 1900, in the second day-afternoon session, right in front of the Prophet himself, who made no corrections.

To me, it doesn't matter if they said this in the year 1900 or 2007, it's equally wrong, offensive and a complete disgrace for the world to see and supposed "Prophets of God", should have known this, right? If they have no more insight than the average person, then what good are they? They should change their famous song to "We Thank Thee O God For An Average Man, Who Knows No More Than Any Other Man."(and in many cases, much less than the average, decent man)

Regarding the history of Mormonism, Hinckley said , "I knew a so-called intellectual who said the Church was trapped by its history. My response was that without that history we have nothing." And in many cases, WITH that history, you have NOTHING!!

Boyd K. Packer said, "Church history can he so interesting and so inspiring as to be a very powerful tool indeed for building faith. If not properly written or properly taught, it may be a faith destroyer." AMEN to that statement too!!

In the same speech, Boyd K. Packer also quotes Joseph F. Smith, who said:

It has not been by the wisdom of man that this people have been directed in their course until the present; it has been by the wisdom of Him who is above man and whose knowledge is greater than that of man, and whose power is above the power of man; for it is unto God, our Father, we are indebted for the mercies we have enjoyed and for the present prosperous condition of the people of God throughout this inter-mountain region and throughout the world. The hand of the Lord may not be visible to all. There may be many who can not discern the workings of God's will in the progress and development of this great latter-day work, but there are those who see in every hour and in every moment of the existence of the Church, from its beginning until now, the overruling, almighty hand of Him who sent His Only Begotten Son to the world to become a sacrifice for the sin of the world, that as He was lifted up so He, by reason of His righteousness and power and the sacrifice which He has made, might lift up unto God all the children of men who would hearken to His voice, receive His message and obey His law. (Conference Report April 1904-First Day Morning session.)

Boyd K. Packer then says, after quoting Joseph F. Smith:

"If we do not keep this constantly in mind-that the Lord directs this Church--we may lose our way in the world of intellectual and scholarly research."

I've had so many debates and downright nasty arguments with TBMs and Mormon apologists both, regarding the history of racism in Mormonism and the next 3 posts I do, should help put an end to any and all arguments and cement the Mormon racism as absolute FACT, that CANNOT BE DENIED, unless your completely lost in Cognitive Dissonance or just a racist yourself.

There really isn't any in between on this matter and even Gordon B. Hinckley says there's "no middle ground", when it comes to the church being true or false. Did you hear than everyone; NO MIDDLE GROUND.

Of course, we have to once again consider that they claim they can't ever lead you astray, in any way, or EVER teach false doctrines, or God will literally step in and REMOVE them, so I'm guessing that saying the word "nigger" from the pulpit in General Conference, is perfectly fine with the majority of the Mormon apologists, right? I can't say that I've ever seen these exact words addressed by any of the Mormon apologists and certainly not by any of the Mormon Hierarchy.

So, now that I've shown everyone that the Mormon church teaches that "every hour and in every moment of the existence of the Church, from its beginning until now", is inspired directly by their God, we can move onto to what I stated in the Title of this post.

Heber J. Grant, related the following story(I wish I could have been there for this one or that we had audio or video of it), I guess finding it rather humorous:

I went to a negro minstrel show once, and there were about ten or fifteen on the stage. One of them rushed in with his hat off and said. "which of these here niggers am lost two dollars?" holding up a two dollar bill. There hadn't any of them lost two dollars. "Well," he said, "if none of you have lost it, I found these two dollars right by the door here and it is my money."

They said all right, and he put it in his pocket. No sooner had he got it in his pocket than up jumped a nigger and said: "Look here, George Washington Jones, you owe me two dollars; pay your honest debts!" He handed the two dollars to him. Another nigger jumps up and says: "Look here, Julius C. Brown, you owes me two dollars; pay your debt."

He got it, and in this way it went clear round. When the last man got it, up jumps George Washington Jones, and says: "Here, give me back the two dollars; you owes me two dollar." No sooner had he got it in his pocket than a fellow rushes in and said "which of you niggers has found two dollars?" George Washington Jones took it out of his pocket and said: "Here, take your money and go home; we've all paid our debts."

I desire that the Latter-day Saints should all pay their debts. One reason why I desire this is, I am in debt myself and I want to pay my debts. I want to live to see the day when I shall owe no man anything. I want the Latter-day Saints to not only pray for me but to keep a little more money in the country so that I will stand a better chance to get some of it. If they will keep the commandments of God and do less praying, I will be obliged to them.

Wow, now that was truly inspiring, from a so called Apostle of God, wasn't it? Heber J. Grant wasn't the only one to use the term "nigger" in General Conference either. There was also Reed Smoot, who was an Apostle from from 1898 until his death in 1941.

He had the following words to say in the General Conference of 1907, third-day morning session:

I want to speak, for a short thee, upon fakes and fakirs. I am led to speak on this line because of the fact that, not long ago, in one of the counties adjoining this, in a town inhabited almost entirely by Latter-day Saints, there came in the midst of the people-heralded by newspapers-a man claiming that he was the greatest doctor in the world. He was a phenomenon. He had such great wisdom that he could cure all the ills that mankind is heir to. He was well dressed and looked like a gentleman.

One of the first things he did on arriving in the town was to hire the brass band, for the purpose of drawing a crowd and preceding his carriage to all meetings. He went to one of the business corners of the city, where a little stand was erected, and in order to hold the crowd until he could convince some of them that they had worms, or something worse, he had three or four niggers sing songs-by the way, I have been told that the niggers furnished the best part of the entertainment.

Let's just be honest; the Mormon church has been racist since day one and Joseph Smith supported Slavery, as did Brigham Young and John Taylor and many others, as they felt it was truly a "divine institution" of God, which explains why they hated the ABOLITIONISTS so much.

Joseph Smith, in regard to teaching the slaves, said:

"All men are to be taught to repent; but we have no right to interfere with slaves contrary to the mind and will of their masters. In fact, it would be much better and more prudent, not to preach at all to slaves, until after their masters are converted..." (Messenger and Advocate Volume 2, number 7, page 291)

In the same addition of the Messenger and Advocate I just mentioned, from April 1836, it has an entire section regarding the Abolitionists and says:

"If those who run through the free states, exciting their indignation against our brothers of the South, feel so much sympathy and kindness towards the blacks, were to go to the southern states, where the alleged evil exists, and warn those who are guilty of these enormous crimes, to repent and turn from their wickedness, or would purchase the slaves and then set them at liberty, we should have no objections to this provided they would place them upon some other continent than ours. Then we should begin to believe they were acting honestly; but till something of this is manifested, we shall think otherwise. What benefit can the slave derive from the long harangues."

And the following:

"Where can be the common sense of any wishing to see the slaves of the south set at liberty, is past our comprehension. Such a thing could not take place without corrupting all civil and wholesome society, of both the north and the south! Let the blacks of the south be free, and our community is overrun with paupers, and a reckless mass of human beings, uncultivated, untaught and unaccustomed to provide for themselves the necessaries of life-endangering the chastity of every female who might by chance be found in our streets-our prisons filled with convicts, and the hang-man wearied with executing the functions of his office! This must unavoidably be the case, every rational man must admit, who have ever travelled [traveled] in the slave states, or we must open our houses, unfold our arms, and bid these degraded and degrading sons of Canaan, a hearty welcome and a free admittance to all we possess! A society of this nature, to us, is so intolerably degrading, that the bare reflection causes our feelings to recoil, and our hearts to revolt.

We repeat, that we have long looked upon this subject with deep feeling, and till now have remained silent; but for this once we wash our hands of the matter.

We have travelled [traveled] in the south, and have seen the condition of both master and servant; and without the least disposition to deprive others of their liberty of thinking, we unhesitatingly say that if ever the condition of the slave is bettered, under our present form of government, it must be by converting the master to the faith of the gospel and then teaching him to be kind to his slave. The idea of transportation is folly, the project of emancipation is destructive to our government, and the notion of amalgamation is devilish!-And insensible to feeling must be the heart, and low indeed must be the mind, that would consent for a moment, to see his fair daughter, his sister, or perhaps, his bosom companion, in the embrace of a NEGRO!"

Were all of these words inspired by some God? Now, for those that aren't familiar with exactly what the "Messenger and Advocate" was; it was similar to the Ensign today and was the second periodical of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It was published at Kirtland, Ohio, from October 1834 until September 1837. Each issue consisted of 16 pages, and it was published once a month. It was the "official opinions" and "beliefs" of the church and cannot be disputed.

It was decided to start the "Messenger and Advocate" at a meeting that was held on September 11, 1833, and consisted of F.G. Williams, Sidney Rigdon, Newel K. Whitney, Joseph Smith Jr., and Oliver Cowdery. At the time of the above printing, it was being edited by Oliver Cowdery, Joseph's Right hand man and the "Second Elder of the church", "Assistant President of the Church", which was the modern day equivalent of First Counselor in the First Presidency, which is the position Thomas S. Monson holds today. In other words, Oliver Cowdery was just a heartbeat away from being the head cheese and running Mormon Inc.

Of course, after he rejected polygamy and accused Joseph smith(rightfully so) of adultery(a dirty, nasty, filthy affair with his maid Fanny Alger-in secret behind Emma's back), he was excommunicated. He was later re-baptized about 10 years later, when Joseph was dead and gone.

Now, to help cement that the racism in Mormonism came from the very founder himself, Joseph Smith Jr., I want to end with the following quote, directly out of his very own teachings:

"Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization." (Teachings of Joseph Smith-Section Five 1842-43, p.269)

I could relate countless other examples of Mormon racism and how they felt toward blacks or anyone of "dark color" or of a "different race" other than Caucasian, but I've covered that in other posts already and I will cover it more in future posts. I think the evidence I've provided here is pretty compelling, thorough and shocking to the average person that wasn't aware of it and hasn't ever read it before and this will suffice for now.

I'll now ask the question I've already asked a thousand times and I'll probably have to ask a thousand more times; has the Mormon Hierarchy ever repudiated these awful racist teachings and statements and the fact that Heber J. Grant, the future Prophet, used the word "nigger" from the pulpit at General Conference, along with the Apostle Reed Smoot?

Mormon apologists out there reading this, please direct me and everyone else, to these repudiations that I can't seem to locate anywhere, so that we can set the record straight and be fair. Also, don't give me any of your bullshit excuses about "everyone was a racist back then" and "they were just men", etc. You know that's BS and just a pathetic excuse that you all use to defend the "one and only true church", because you can't accept the "other alternative"...which is that it's all a fraud and false, led by men that are nothing more then men and not directed by any God.

Hinckley summed it up perfectly(link for the audio) in the April 2006 Priesthood session when he said the following:

"I remind you that no man who makes disparaging remarks concerning those of another race can consider himself a true disciple of Christ, nor can he consider himself to be in harmony with the teachings of the Church of Christ. How can any man, holding the Melchizedek Priesthood, arrogantly assume that he is eligible for the Priesthood while another who lives a righteous life but whose skin is of a different color is ineligible."

Well, I know that the above statement, if true(and he wasn't just speaking as a man), cancels out Joseph Smith Jr., Brigham Young, John Taylor, Heber J. Grant, Joseph F. Smith, Joseph Fielding Smith, Spencer W. Kimball and many others from being "true disciples of Christ" or "eligible for the Priesthood", or "Prophets, Seers and Revelators" that can't lead the Saints astray, without God removing them.

Some argue that God did actually remove Joseph Smith, which would actually make a lot of sense, considering the awful things he was a part of, in addition to his racist attitudes. Of course, to those that revere him, the thought of God removing him is preposterous, because he never did anything wrong, was a "man of God" and they now sing "Praise To The Man."

So, even if God did remove Joseph Smith, it wouldn't explain everyone else on the above list of "ineligibles", as defined by Hinckley, especially the tyrant and disgrace of a man Brigham Young. The reality is; there wasn't any God that had anything to do with any of this and never has and never will, as it's all man made and run. It's not hard to figure out folks, if you have the courage to consider that alternative possibility.

So, in summary, either these men were racists, not inspired or called by any God or Hinckley is wrong now in degrading these beloved, racist Prophets. You can't have it both ways guys!! Hinckley also calls any man who thinks he's eligible for the Priesthood, despite being such clear racists, to be ARROGANT and "not in harmony with the teachings of the Church of Christ." Hard to argue with that, isn't it?

Finally, let's end with more of Gordon B. Hinckley's EXACT WORDS:

Each of us has to face the matter—either the Church is true, or it is a FRAUD. There is no middle ground. It is the Church and kingdom of God, or it is NOTHING.

It is indeed a FRAUD AND NOTHING!! Remember Mormon apologists, according to your current and beloved Prophet, who talks to and for God, "THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!" Gee, I wonder how FARMS and the Mormon apologists fit into the "NO MIDDLE GROUND" situation? I guess we'd have to ask "NO MIDDLE GROUND HINCKLEY", who made FARMS an official part of BYU in 1999 and was very excited about it and the future of FARMS.

So, what good reason or excuse are your Mormon apologists gonna try to use, to defend Heber J. Grant and Reed Smoot, using the term "nigger", in General Conference? Are you really okay with it? Are you actually gonna tell us it's no big deal and pull a Hinckley and just say "it's in the past" and this is just another example of the racist "little flicks of history." For your sake, I sure hope not.

I look forward to everyone's comments, as I'm sure many of you out there, are reading some of this stuff for the very first time.

Samuel the Utahnite